Dear Maintainer, I'm running a plain, default install of bookworm that was upgraded from bullseye. Audio output worked under bullseye, and at first under bookworm. Then an upgrade broke the audio. Now, the only audio device available in the GNOME Sound Settings is "Dummy Output" and it is not possible get sound output from any of the default apps (browsers, VLC, etc). I can get sound output using the Pd-extended flatpak package, which seems to directly access ALSA. That is why I filed this bug against pipewire. The computer is an ASUS Chromebook delbin so Linux does support it. Here is some hopefully useful debug info: hans@delbin:~$ pw-cli info 0 id: 0 permissions: rwxm type: PipeWire:Interface:Core/3 cookie: 3757616015 user-name: "hans" host-name: "delbin" version: "0.3.61" name: "pipewire-0" * properties: * config.name = "pipewire.conf" * link.max-buffers = "16" * core.daemon = "true" * core.name = "pipewire-0" * default.clock.min-quantum = "16" * cpu.max-align = "64" * default.clock.rate = "48000" * default.clock.quantum = "1024" * default.clock.max-quantum = "2048" * default.clock.quantum-limit = "8192" * default.video.width = "640" * default.video.height = "480" * default.video.rate.num = "25" * default.video.rate.denom = "1" * log.level = "2" * clock.power-of-two-quantum = "true" * mem.warn-mlock = "false" * mem.allow-mlock = "true" * settings.check-quantum = "false" * settings.check-rate = "false" * object.id = "0" * object.serial = "0" hans@delbin ~$ sudo journalctl | grep wire Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Rejected send message, 0 matched rules; type="error", sender=":1.71" (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") interface="(unset)" member="(unset)" error name="org.bluez.MediaEndpoint1.Error.NotImplemented" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.2" (uid=0 pid=844 comm="/usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.bluez' unit='dbus-org.bluez.service' requested by ':1.71' (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin dbus-daemon[846]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.bluez' unit='dbus-org.bluez.service' requested by ':1.71' (uid=1000 pid=2238 comm="/usr/bin/wireplumber") Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin wireplumber[2238]: stopped by signal: Terminated Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin wireplumber[2238]: disconnected from pipewire Nov 26 22:53:37 delbin systemd[2206]: wireplumber.service: Consumed 1.036s CPU time. Nov 26 22:54:20 delbin wireplumber[1092]: Can't find xdg-portal: (null) Nov 26 22:54:20 delbin wireplumber[1092]: found session bus but no portal Nov 26 22:54:20 delbin pipewire-pulse[1093]: mod.rt: Can't find xdg-portal: (null) Nov 26 22:54:20 delbin pipewire-pulse[1093]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal Nov 26 22:54:20 delbin pipewire[1090]: mod.rt: Can't find xdg-portal: (null) Nov 26 22:54:20 delbin pipewire[1090]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal Nov 26 22:54:20 delbin dbus-daemon[845]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.RealtimeKit1' unit='rtkit-daemon.service' requested by ':1.24' (uid=116 pid=1093 comm="/usr/bin/pipewire-pulse") Nov 26 22:54:20 delbin pipewire[1090]: mod.x11-bell: XOpenDisplay() failed Nov 26 22:54:21 delbin wireplumber[1092]: Failed to set scheduler settings: Operation not permitted Nov 26 22:54:21 delbin wireplumber[1092]: SPA handle 'api.libcamera.enum.manager' could not be loaded; is it installed? Nov 26 22:54:21 delbin wireplumber[1092]: PipeWire's libcamera SPA missing or broken. libcamera not supported. Nov 26 22:54:21 delbin pipewire-pulse[1205]: 536870912 Nov 26 22:54:21 delbin wireplumber[1092]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. Nov 26 22:54:24 delbin NetworkManager[887]: <info> [1669499664.3297] device (wlp0s20f3): Activation: (wifi) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful. Connected to wireless network "N" Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin wireplumber[2182]: Can't find xdg-portal: (null) Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin wireplumber[2182]: found session bus but no portal Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin pipewire-pulse[2183]: mod.rt: Can't find xdg-portal: (null) Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin pipewire-pulse[2183]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin pipewire[2180]: mod.rt: Can't find xdg-portal: (null) Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin pipewire[2180]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin pipewire[2180]: mod.x11-bell: XOpenDisplay() failed Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin pipewire-pulse[2233]: 536870912 Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin wireplumber[2182]: Failed to set scheduler settings: Operation not permitted Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin wireplumber[2182]: SPA handle 'api.libcamera.enum.manager' could not be loaded; is it installed? Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin wireplumber[2182]: PipeWire's libcamera SPA missing or broken. libcamera not supported. Nov 26 22:54:27 delbin wireplumber[2182]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for LE Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5. Nov 26 22:54:40 delbin wireplumber[1092]: stopped by signal: Terminated Nov 26 22:54:40 delbin wireplumber[1092]: disconnected from pipewire
Hi, Le mar. 29 nov. 2022 à 15:51, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@eds.org> a écrit : I suspect it is a conflict between pulseaudio and pipewire-pulse and a duplicate of https://bugs.debian.org/1021530 Can you check if the pulseaudio service is running? If so, can you try to disable (and mask) pulseaudio service and socket and restart pipewire, pipewire-pulse and wireplumber services? These steps are describe at https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire If you are facing this conflict, you can also just remove the pulseaudio package. It looks like I really have to mark pipewire-pulse in conflict with pulseaudio. Best, Dylan
Hi, I think it would be a shame to come to this: package conflict. This means that on the same system, their users must exclusively use one same software and sometimes leaving the decision to the root users (who may also disagree themselves). Ideally, it would be even more powerful Debian proposal if, in such a case, users run whatever in parallel (and without pushing the problem to the container side). I know that it is not always possible but to consider it is a (big) plus to me. It also facilite comparison: one time with pulseaudio, one time with pipewire, without the installing/purging danse. A documentation and/or a simple setting command to run that solves is a better way to my opinion. Could a management script and making the switch be helpful? Regards, Patrice
You can ping me on IRC (_hc) or matrix (@eighthave:matrix.org) if you want to
try it interactively. pulseaudio was not running as far as I could tell.
root@delbin:~# service pulseaudio-enable-autospawn status
○ pulseaudio-enable-autospawn.service
Loaded: masked (Reason: Unit pulseaudio-enable-autospawn.service is masked.)
Active: inactive (dead)
hans@delbin:~$ ps auxww|grep pulse
hans 68885 0.0 0.1 35168 10600 ? S<sl 20:50 0:00
/usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
hans 80426 0.0 0.0 9568 2204 pts/1 S+ 21:04 0:00 grep pulse
hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user --now enable wireplumber.service
hans@delbin:~$ journalctl --user -u pipewire --user -u wireplumber --user -u
pipewire-pulse -f
Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin pipewire-pulse[2233]: 536870912
Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin wireplumber[2182]: Failed to set scheduler settings:
Operation not permitted
Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin wireplumber[2182]: SPA handle
'api.libcamera.enum.manager' could not be loaded; is it installed?
Nov 26 22:54:26 delbin wireplumber[2182]: PipeWire's libcamera SPA missing or
broken. libcamera not supported.
Nov 26 22:54:27 delbin wireplumber[2182]: Trying to use legacy bluez5 API for LE
Audio - only A2DP will be supported. Please upgrade bluez5.
Dec 01 20:50:55 delbin systemd[2147]: Stopping PipeWire PulseAudio...
Dec 01 20:50:55 delbin systemd[2147]: Stopped PipeWire PulseAudio.
Dec 01 20:50:55 delbin systemd[2147]: pipewire-pulse.service: Consumed 17.350s
CPU time.
Dec 01 20:50:55 delbin systemd[2147]: Started PipeWire PulseAudio.
Dec 01 20:50:55 delbin pipewire-pulse[68890]: 536870912
hans@delbin:~$ systemctl status|grep -e pipe -e wire -e pulse
│ │ └─80108 grep -e pipe -e wire -e pulse
├─pipewire-pulse.service
│ └─68885 /usr/bin/pipewire-pulse
├─pipewire.service
│ └─2180 /usr/bin/pipewire
├─wireplumber.service
│ └─2182 /usr/bin/wireplumber
It looks like it is not conflicting with pulseaudio. I tried these steps and I'm still have only "Dummy Output". I have not restarted though hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user daemon-reload hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user --now disable pulseaudio.service pulseaudio.socket hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user --now enable pipewire pipewire-pulse Created symlink /home/hans/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/pipewire.service → /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service. Created symlink /home/hans/.config/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pipewire.socket → /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.socket. Created symlink /home/hans/.config/systemd/user/default.target.wants/pipewire-pulse.service → /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service. Created symlink /home/hans/.config/systemd/user/sockets.target.wants/pipewire-pulse.socket → /usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.socket. hans@delbin:~$ LANG=C pactl info | grep '^Server Name' Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.61) hans@delbin:~$ $ systemctl --user --now enable wireplumber.service bash: $: command not found hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user --now enable wireplumber.service hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user --now enable pipewire pipewire-pulse hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user --now start pipewire pipewire-pulse hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user --now restart pipewire pipewire-pulse hans@delbin:~$ systemctl --user --now restart wireplumber.service hans@delbin:~$
I've filed a bug upstream and am working through some debugging there: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/3086
I had been happily using my Roland STUDIO-CAPTURE on recent kernels
with only minor changes to /etc/pulse/daemon.conf:
default-sameple-format = S24LE
default-sample-rate = 96000
After upgrading to bookworm and away from pure pulseaudio to
pipewire-pulse (on wireplumber) I only have "Dummy Output" selectable
in Gnome's Settings.
I have modified what I could from 48000 rates to 96000 in
/usr/share/pipewire, but that didn't solve it (and I can't seem to
find a global setting for sample format). Prior to that, I'd tried
setting the STUDIO-CAPTURE's own rate to 48000 Hz, without change to
Gnome Settings' "Dummy Output" option only.
What does seem to have worked (for now) is running pavucontrol and
setting the Configuration tab's STUDIO-CAPTURE Profile to MultiChannel
Output (or selecting it as the default device for the Input and Output
tabs). I haven't rebooted yet, though, and I think I'll be needing to
set it again after every boot, as after setting it, it changes Gnome
Settings' "Output Device" to nothing and is greyed out. The "Input
Device" there may be changed to "Analog Input - STUDIO-CAPTURE", but
that reverts to the "Dummy Output" and no audio.
I think it may have to do with the STUDIO-CAPTURE's many outputs, but
I'm not sure where to set that, aside from possibly creating a device
definition, which pulseaudio alone didn't require.
Here's my pactl list sinks output after pavucontrol sets it up
working, if it helps:
Sink #470
State: RUNNING
Name: alsa_output.usb-Roland_STUDIO-CAPTURE_STCP80008c08d018c010005040a0d0c4-01.multichannel-output
Description: STUDIO-CAPTURE Multichannel
Driver: PipeWire
Sample Specification: s32le 10ch 96000Hz
Channel Map: aux0,aux1,aux2,aux3,aux4,aux5,aux6,aux7,aux8,aux9
Owner Module: 4294967295
Mute: no
Volume: aux0: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB, aux1: 65536 / 100% / 0.00
dB, aux2: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB, aux3: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,
aux4: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB, aux5: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB, aux6:
65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB, aux7: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB, aux8: 65536
/ 100% / 0.00 dB, aux9: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
balance 0.00
Base Volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
Monitor Source:
alsa_output.usb-Roland_STUDIO-CAPTURE_STCP80008c08d018c010005040a0d0c4-01.multichannel-output.monitor
Latency: 0 usec, configured 0 usec
Flags: HARDWARE DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY
Properties:
alsa.card = "3"
alsa.card_name = "STUDIO-CAPTURE"
alsa.class = "generic"
alsa.device = "0"
alsa.driver_name = "snd_usb_audio"
alsa.id = "USB Audio"
alsa.long_card_name = "Roland STUDIO-CAPTURE at
usb-0000:05:00.0-4, high speed"
alsa.name = "USB Audio"
alsa.resolution_bits = "32"
alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
alsa.subdevice = "0"
alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
api.alsa.card.longname = "Roland STUDIO-CAPTURE at
usb-0000:05:00.0-4, high speed"
api.alsa.card.name = "STUDIO-CAPTURE"
api.alsa.path = "hw:3"
api.alsa.pcm.card = "3"
api.alsa.pcm.stream = "playback"
audio.channels = "10"
audio.position = "AUX0,AUX1,AUX2,AUX3,AUX4,AUX5,AUX6,AUX7,AUX8,AUX9"
card.profile.device = "3"
device.api = "alsa"
device.class = "sound"
device.id = "43"
device.profile.description = "Multichannel"
device.profile.name = "multichannel-output"
device.routes = "0"
factory.name = "api.alsa.pcm.sink"
media.class = "Audio/Sink"
device.description = "STUDIO-CAPTURE"
node.name =
"alsa_output.usb-Roland_STUDIO-CAPTURE_STCP80008c08d018c010005040a0d0c4-01.multichannel-output"
node.nick = "STUDIO-CAPTURE"
node.pause-on-idle = "false"
object.path = "alsa:pcm:3:hw:3:playback"
priority.driver = "1000"
priority.session = "1000"
factory.id = "18"
clock.quantum-limit = "8192"
client.id = "53"
node.driver = "true"
factory.mode = "merge"
audio.adapt.follower = ""
library.name = "audioconvert/libspa-audioconvert"
object.id = "42"
object.serial = "470"
node.max-latency = "16384/96000"
api.alsa.period-size = "512"
api.alsa.period-num = "64"
api.alsa.headroom = "512"
api.acp.auto-port = "false"
api.acp.auto-profile = "false"
api.alsa.card = "3"
api.alsa.use-acp = "true"
api.dbus.ReserveDevice1 = "Audio3"
device.bus = "usb"
device.bus-id =
"usb-Roland_STUDIO-CAPTURE_STCP80008c08d018c010005040a0d0c4-01"
device.bus_path = "pci-0000:05:00.0-usb-0:4:1.1"
device.enum.api = "udev"
device.icon_name = "audio-card-analog-usb"
device.name =
"alsa_card.usb-Roland_STUDIO-CAPTURE_STCP80008c08d018c010005040a0d0c4-01"
device.nick = "STUDIO-CAPTURE"
device.plugged.usec = "19929357"
device.product.id = "0x0160"
device.product.name = "STUDIO-CAPTURE"
device.serial = "Roland_STUDIO-CAPTURE_STCP80008c08d018c010005040a0d0c4"
device.subsystem = "sound"
sysfs.path =
"/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0b.0/0000:05:00.0/usb5/5-4/5-4:1.1/sound/card3"
device.vendor.id = "0x0582"
device.vendor.name = "Roland Corp."
device.string = "3"
Formats:
pcm
And, here it is after Gnome's Settings changes it back to "Dummy
Output" by setting Input to "Analog Input - STUDIO-CAPTURE":
Sink #1105
State: RUNNING
Name: auto_null
Description: Dummy Output
Driver: PipeWire
Sample Specification: float32le 2ch 48000Hz
Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Owner Module: 4294967295
Mute: no
Volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB, front-right: 65536 /
100% / 0.00 dB
balance 0.00
Base Volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
Monitor Source: auto_null.monitor
Latency: 0 usec, configured 0 usec
Flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY
Properties:
node.name = "auto_null"
device.description = "Dummy Output"
audio.rate = "48000"
audio.channels = "2"
audio.position = "FL,FR"
media.class = "Audio/Sink"
factory.name = "support.null-audio-sink"
node.virtual = "true"
monitor.channel-volumes = "true"
factory.id = "18"
clock.quantum-limit = "8192"
client.id = "69"
node.driver = "true"
factory.mode = "merge"
audio.adapt.follower = ""
library.name = "audioconvert/libspa-audioconvert"
object.id = "108"
object.serial = "1105"
Formats:
pcm
I think my cause might be different, but it matches the original subject.
Thanks for any help!
Here's a correction: I shutdown and started it again, and the pavucontrol setup was retained. So, I continued testing by running ardour, knowing it's set to use JACK through ALSA. It played fine, but when I quit it, I wasn't able to hear pulseaudio, nor select the same pavucontrol profile. Luckily, there's a "Pro Audio" Configuration in pavucontrol that works too. I retested ardour with it and later standard pulseaudio playback, and it continues to work! I wouldn't say this is fixed, but I consider it much improved, by these findings, and almost tolerable.
I'm confirming this issue. After upgrade from bullseye to bookworm sound in KDE disappeared. I was able to restore it after manually installing wireplumber.
Do you have jackd installed and runnning at the same time as pipewire- pulse? Maybe you want to try piepwire-jack instead? Cheers, Alban
I appreciate the suggestion, but since I also use multiple devices with JACK, it's only running when I want to record and use a specific profile/device. Ardour will start it using the last used (default) profile, but only when I've not already started JACK from qjackctl to use another profile. I think having it always running may complicate this setup I've grown accustomed to. Are you aware of any issues trying to stop JACK (to use other rates and devices) when using pipewire-jack? Thanks, Lucas
I should have let you know when I created it, but I still have no feedback from a bug report I wrote to the pipewire developers: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/3131. I guessed it was a "port detection" issue after reading this response on the original poster's bug report: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/3086#note_1831991
Le dimanche 09 avril 2023 à 15:03 -0500, Lucas a écrit : "Multichannel Output" Profile disappeared after I ran JACK (ardour), and I only see again now on a fresh startup. Do you mean it disappeared from pavucontrol when you run JACK from ardour ? What I meant is that you cannot run pipewire and jackd at the same time ? I cannot work as one will prevent the other from accessing the ALSA sound device. If you want to run JACK application whne running pipewire you can only do so by pipewire-jackd and disabling jackd. This is not a pipewire bug. jackd also cannot work if the sound device is already taken by an alsa program or any other daemon plugging to the alsa interface (pipewire, pulseaudio), it could work because for one pulseaudio aut suspend itself from time to time so the alsa sound device is free when so. But then when pulseaudio will resume and your jackd daemon is holding on the alsa sound device pulseaudio will not work. This is not supported (for pulseaudio you could use the pasuspend tool, still it is hack). Also: Gnome Settings Output Device contains nothing to select, while Input allows "Analog Input - STUDIO-CAPTURE" and "STUDIO-CAPTURE Pro". The only way to have output audio working is to use pavucontrol and select either of the STUDIO-CAPTURE Profile Configurations "Multichannel Output", or "Pro Audio". and: That "Multichannel Output" Profile disappeared after I ran JACK (ardour), and I only see again now on a fresh startup. seems to be two different issue. You should report both in two diffrent bug report else it the bug report will get confusing soon. My reply was about the second issue (which to me look like a normal behavior). For the first one, I am a bit confused. You mean that even in pavucontrol if you do not switch to the STUDIO-CAPTURE Profile Configurations "Multichannel Output", or "Pro Audio" you cannot set a sound output device? If you bug report upstream you could try to run pipewire built from source (you just have to stop pipewire related systemd user services, ie systemctl --user stop pipewire.service, etc). Also there is a newer pipewire version 0.3.76 in Debian rc-buggy (experimental). Could you provide the same debug logs as this bug reporter did? loginctl user-status | grep State lsof /dev/snd/* fuser -v /dev/snd/* aplay -l journalctl --user -b --unit pipewire.service and maybe also journalctl --user -b --unit pipewire-pulse.service pipewire --version and why not the output when running gnome-control-center from a terminal: gnome-control-center --verbose sound Still could you try with pipewire-jack instead of jackd (even if you prefer to run jackd only while running a jack application. Cheers Alban
Also could you also give the wireplumber log https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/pipewire/-/issues/3086#note_1829660 Cheers, Alban Le mardi 11 avril 2023 à 14:30 +0200, Alban Browaeys a écrit :
Yes, that particular output option from pavucontrol disappeared after running ardour, and then closing it (Gnome settings shows an empty unselectable output). After ardour is closed, jack automatically is too, and pavucontrol once again displays STUDIO CAPTURE in Configuration. Yes, I know this should be the case, but pulseaudio seems to be graceful enough without me suspending it to run ardour's jack. When I'm done with that, I also don't have to stop suspending pulseaudio. Not quite. It wasn't disabled before I set pavucontrol's configuration, but all that was selectable in Gnome settings for output was a Dummy Audio option, or something to that effect. I might revisit this after reading up on how to pin experimental for that one package, but for now I'll work on adding the other debugging information you suggested, to the bug report. Thanks for the suggestions!
Okay, I just installed it. I had to start ardour with this command, to get sound working on it: $ pw-jack -s 96000 ardour It didn't change Gnome Settings, but it did retain pavucontrol's configuration the entire time jack was running, which is a very neat trick, but doesn't seem worth having ardour see a difference in the device, nor modifying ardour's command. I've never needed ardour and pulseaudio running at the same time, and it doesn't seem to help the port detection issue with Gnome Settings.