#1068479 libreoffice-writer: space between paragraphs missing in spacing and indentation

Package:
libreoffice-writer
Source:
libreoffice-writer
Description:
office productivity suite -- word processor
Submitter:
José Luis González
Date:
2025-08-08 14:19:57 UTC
Severity:
normal
Tags:
#1068479#5
Date:
2024-04-05 22:34:12 UTC
From:
To:
The setting for spacing between paragraphs is missing in the spacing
and indentation tab of the paragraph dialog.

Serious severity because the bug has a major effect on the usability of
the package, without rendering it completely unusable, considering
paragraphs are a key feature in a word processor, and spacing is
something very very basic for them and incredibly necessary.

#1068479#10
Date:
2024-04-06 09:03:09 UTC
From:
To:
tag 1068479 + moreinfo

tag 1068479 + unreproducible

severity 1068479 important

thanks


Hi,


Am 06.04.24 um 00:34 schrieb José Luis González:

?

It's definitely there. Format -> Paragraph has spacing "after/before".

See here (yes, from stable):

Don't overfinflate severities. That is the definition of important

"5 important       a bug which has a major effect on the usability of a
package, without rendering it completely unusable to everyone.
6 serious         is a severe violation of Debian policy (that is, the
problem is a violation of a 'must' or 'required' directive); may or may
not affect the
                   usability of the package. Note that non-severe policy
violations may be 'normal,' 'minor,' or 'wishlist' bugs. (Package
maintainers may
                   also designate other bugs as 'serious' and thus
release-critical; however, end users should not do so.). For the
canonical list of issues
                   deserving a serious severity you can refer to this
webpage: https://release.debian.org/testing/rc_policy.txt .

"

This matches 5, not 6.


And it's unreproducible.


Regards,


Rene

#1068479#15
Date:
2024-04-06 09:03:09 UTC
From:
To:
tag 1068479 + moreinfo

tag 1068479 + unreproducible

severity 1068479 important

thanks


Hi,


Am 06.04.24 um 00:34 schrieb José Luis González:

?

It's definitely there. Format -> Paragraph has spacing "after/before".

See here (yes, from stable):

Don't overfinflate severities. That is the definition of important

"5 important       a bug which has a major effect on the usability of a
package, without rendering it completely unusable to everyone.
6 serious         is a severe violation of Debian policy (that is, the
problem is a violation of a 'must' or 'required' directive); may or may
not affect the
                   usability of the package. Note that non-severe policy
violations may be 'normal,' 'minor,' or 'wishlist' bugs. (Package
maintainers may
                   also designate other bugs as 'serious' and thus
release-critical; however, end users should not do so.). For the
canonical list of issues
                   deserving a serious severity you can refer to this
webpage: https://release.debian.org/testing/rc_policy.txt .

"

This matches 5, not 6.


And it's unreproducible.


Regards,


Rene

#1068479#26
Date:
2024-04-06 09:11:00 UTC
From:
To:
Hi,

Am 06.04.24 um 11:03 schrieb Rene Engelhard:

Got lost.

See https://people.debian.org/~rene/libreoffice/1068479-works.png

Regards,

Rene

#1068479#31
Date:
2024-04-06 09:31:08 UTC
From:
To:
Hi again,

Am 06.04.24 um 11:11 schrieb Rene Engelhard:

Just for avoidance of doubt since the screenshot is in German:

That is the second part "Absatz".
First is "above", second is "below" (the paragraph)

Regards,

Rene

#1068479#36
Date:
2024-04-06 09:43:59 UTC
From:
To:
Hi,

Am 06.04.24 um 11:31 schrieb Rene Engelhard:
- Before
- After
- First Line

Regards,

Rene

#1068479#41
Date:
2024-04-06 10:33:09 UTC
From:
To:
Hi again,

Am 06.04.24 um 11:11 schrieb Rene Engelhard:

Just tried in es_ES.UTF-8 (since that is what your other report used)
and C (english) and also there:

https://people.debian.org/~rene/libreoffice/1068479-works-es.png
https://people.debian.org/~rene/libreoffice/1068479-works-en.png

So not reproducible in either spanish or english locale either.

Regards,

Rene

#1068479#46
Date:
2024-04-06 11:09:48 UTC
From:
To:
Hi,

Am 06.04.24 um 11:43 schrieb Rene Engelhard:
[...]

Sorry, ignore that one, you were just aiming at the spacing before/after
the paragraph, not the indentation (not enough coffee yet).

Still, as shown before the spacing before/after the paragraph is there.

Regards,

Rene

#1068479#51
Date:
2024-04-07 18:33:18 UTC
From:
To:
Hi,

Am 06.04.24 um 11:03 schrieb Rene Engelhard:
As said here and proved by screenshots in en,de and es this is present.


Closing this non-bug.


Regards,


Rene

#1068479#58
Date:
2024-04-07 19:05:47 UTC
From:
To:
Hi,

Am 07.04.24 um 20:59 schrieb José Luis González:
No, it wasn't.

Aha.


Still not RC.


You could have replied to my mails, though.

Read again, I didn't ask for screenshots.

Even if there was a bug it's not RC.


Read the bug severities.


Regards,


Rene

#1068479#63
Date:
2024-04-08 11:46:36 UTC
From:
To:
* José Luis González <bugs.jlg@gmail.com> [240407 15:00]:

First, please carefully consider the reply from Pierre-Elliott Bécue.
The tone of your email is way out of line.  If this is the way you
regularly communicate, I would not be surprised that Rene closes your
bug reports.

It is clear to me from your quote of Rene's response that Rene honestly
believed he was answering your question and the bug should be closed.
Politely expressing the difference between the current behavior and what
you were asking for, and at the same time reopening the bug (at a proper
severity), would have been appropriate.  It should have been done in the
bug tracker and _not_ on this list.  I've set Reply-To to the bug report
only.

I don't use libreoffice daily, but I do use it.  If this is a case that
lowriter already has a way to obtain "between" spacing, but it is just
not in the proper dialog box, then this is a "normal" bug at most,
possibly "minor".  However, I don't believe lowriter ever had such a
feature.  If this is the case, the severity is "wishlist", and not
higher.  (If it does have this feature, I would personally be interested
in how to do it!)

In no way would I consider this an "important" bug, and absolutely not
"serious" or RC.

All missing or not-yet-implemented features might be considered to have
a "major effect on usability" by someone, but in almost all cases, such
a feature request is still only a "wishlist" bug.  Please don't confuse
the difference between how you would like the software to behave and how
it is currently designed to behave as being anything more than a feature
request, regardless of how important you believe the feature is.

...Marvin

#1068479#68
Date:
2024-04-17 11:53:46 UTC
From:
To:
Dear submitter,

as the package libreoffice has just been removed from the Debian archive
experimental we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see https://bugs.debian.org/1069123

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using https://snapshot.debian.org/.

Please note that the changes have been done on the master archive and
will not propagate to any mirrors until the next dinstall run at the
earliest.

This message was generated automatically; if you believe that there is
a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing
ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org.

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Scott Kitterman (the ftpmaster behind the curtain)

#1068479#77
Date:
2025-08-07 22:12:16 UTC
From:
To:
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