mate-themes depends on gtk2-engines, gtk2-engines-murrine and
gtk2-engines-pixbuf, which pull in the rest of GTK 2. GTK 2 is dead
upstream, and apps that use it are gradually being ported to GTK 3
or removed (in particular we finally have a GTK-3-based version of gimp
in unstable).

A fresh installation of trixie with MATE, using debian-installer,
doesn't seem to include any GTK 2 apps any more. Is it time to remove
GTK 2 themes from mate-themes? It is one of only two packages outside
debian-installer that pull in gtk2-engines (the other is lxdm, which it
seems doesn't actually need GTK 2 any more either).

Or, if there is still value in having the GTK 2 themes, perhaps they
could be moved to a new mate-themes-gtk2 or mate-themes-legacy package
that would not need to be in a default installation of MATE, with
mate-themes only having a Suggests on the new package?

GNOME hasn't used GTK 2 for years, so it isn't really sustainable to
expect the GNOME team to continue to carry responsibility for it forever.
After the trixie release I hope to get the graphical debian-installer
ported to GTK 3, which is the main thing keeping GTK 2 release-critical
at the moment.

Thanks,
    smcv

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
mate-themes, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 1092596@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Jeremy Bícha <jbicha@ubuntu.com> (supplier of updated mate-themes package)

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Format: 1.8
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 19:21:28 -0500
Source: mate-themes
Built-For-Profiles: noudeb
Architecture: source
Version: 3.22.26-2
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian+Ubuntu MATE Packaging Team <debian-mate@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Jeremy Bícha <jbicha@ubuntu.com>
Closes: 1092596
Changes:
 mate-themes (3.22.26-2) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Team upload
   * Remove gtk2 dependencies and gtk2 theme (Closes: #1092596)
   * Add patch to stop checking for gtk2 dependency
   * Remove obsolete Build-Depends
   * Remove old Conflicts
   * debian/watch: Convert to Version: 5
   * Bump Standards Version to 4.7.2
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