#1107525 gnome-desktop: which input method should be the default for zh_HK in Debian 13?

#1107525#5
Date:
2025-06-08 15:50:54 UTC
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The version of libgnome-desktop in trixie (44.1) currently defaults to
ibus-table-cangjie5 for zh_HK, but we are now looking at updating to
gnome-desktop 44.3, which changes the default to ibus-cangjie:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/-/merge_requests/168

This reverts a change made in 2022 (between bullseye and bookworm)
while ibus-cangjie was not being actively maintained:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ibus_table_cangjie_default_for_zh_hk

I'm looking for advice from the -i18n and -l10n-chinese lists: is
ibus-cangjie a better default for speakers of Chinese in Hong Kong, or
should we be keeping ibus-table-cangjie5?

Relatedly, the other Chinese locales with default input methods in
libgnome-desktop are:

- ibus-libpinyin for zh_CN;
- ibus-chewing for zh_TW

which match up with the two Chinese GNOME metapackages in tasksel:

- task-chinese-s-gnome-desktop recommends ibus-libpinyin, matching zh_CN
- task-chinese-t-gnome-desktop recommends ibus-chewing, matching zh_TW

Should one of those metapackages pull in ibus-cangjie and/or
ibus-table-cangjie5? If yes, which metapackage?

Thanks,
    smcv

#1107525#10
Date:
2025-06-09 02:09:17 UTC
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Hi,

在 2025/6/8 23:50, Simon McVittie 写道:
I meet one people in Debconf24 who come from Hong Kong,
he is a native Hong Kong people.

I CC'ed this email to he, perhaps he come help answer.

I come from China mainland, I use zh_CN locale.
Most people live in China mainland use zh_CN locale.

As most zh_CN locale user not use ibus-cangjie or ibus-table-cangjie5,
so task-chinese-s-gnome-desktop should not pull in them.

Perhaps the zh_TW locale user can give some feedback in debian-l10n-chinese
mailing list for task-chinese-t-gnome-desktop.

I also CC'ed this email to a DD, meet in Debconf24, who use zh_TW locale. :-)


Regards,

#1107525#15
Date:
2025-06-09 18:30:55 UTC
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Thanks!

I might be misunderstanding, but I think both zh_TW and zh_HK normally use
traditional Chinese characters, so task-chinese-t-gnome-desktop should
ideally be suitable for both?

I think in the short term I'm going to revert the upstream change, so
that we keep the Debian 12 behaviour (ibus-table-cangjie5).
If someone from Hong Kong tells us that ibus-cangjie would be better, we
can ask for a freeze exception for that change separately.

     smcv