Dear maintainer,

I suggest removing gross from Debian for the following reasons:

 * The upstream situation is somehow unclear as discussed in bug #981690
   The bug points to a github repository which points to some older clone
   than the code.google.com repository.  There is a hint to some fork at
   codeberg but it was also hinted (Message #15) that critizised many
   changes with minimal commit messages and no explanations why changes
   are needed.
 * Even with this for it shows build issues as can be seen in Salsa CI
https://salsa.debian.org/debian/gross/-/jobs/6861083
 * The number of votes in popcon is very low
https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=gross&show_installed=on&show_vote=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1
 * Its a leaf package with no rdepends nor rbuild-depends

This bug serves as a pre-removal warning. After one month, the bug will be
reassigned to ftp.debian.org to actually request removal of the package.

In case the package should be kept in unstable, please evaluate at least
the bugs of severity important.  Bug #1096781 will become serious after
Trixie release so should be fixed in any case.  Please carefully review
the codebase of the new upstream version.

Once all these bugs have been acted upon in one way or another, please
close this bug.

In case the package should be removed from unstable, you may reassign this
bug report:

    Control: severity -1 normal
    Control: retitle -1 RM: gross -- RoQA; orphaned upstream, fork not verified, very low usage stats
    Control: reassign -1 ftp.debian.org
    Control: affects -1 + src:gross

Alternatively, you may wait a month and have it reassigned.

In case you disagree with the above, please add a wontfix tag to this bug.

    Control: tags -1 + wontfix

Your package was highlighted in the Bug of the Day[1] initiative, which
aims to introduce newcomers to manageable tasks and guide them through
the workflow to solve them. The focus of this initiative is on migrating
packages to Salsa, as it's a great way to familiarize newcomers with a
consistent Git-based workflow.


Kind regards
    Andreas.

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/qa/tiny_qa_tools/-/wikis/Tiny-QA-tasks

Am 16.06.2025 um 14:38:38 Uhr schrieb Andreas Tille:

According to the info I found, the old programmer abandoned it, someone
took over and fixed some bugs (e.g. broken milter support).

I would prefer if it stayed in Debian, maybe with a warning if people
have serious doubt that the current version on
https://codeberg.org/bizdelnick/gross/src/branch/master/NEWS
contains backdoors.

Hi,

Since Marco expressed interest in this package, it makes sense to keep
it in Debian. Thanks to Tj, the package now builds; at the moment it
lacks systemd support. Once this is provided, I’ll upload the package on
behalf of the QA team (i.e. orphan it) to reflect that its original
maintainer has not been active on this package for some time.

Kind regards
    Andreas.

Hi Antonio,

as per bug #1107872 where I announced a QA upload I just did so to delayed=10.

Kind regards
     Andreas.

PS: Tj, I was not aware whether you want to become Uploader of this QA upload.
    In general I conserve other peoples contribution by leaving their ID as
    changelog owner.  Just let me know if I should cancel the upload and
    sponsor on behalf of you.