(Reading database ... 39803 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../hurd-dev_1%3a0.9.git20250622-2_hurd-i386.deb ... Unpacking hurd-dev (1:0.9.git20250622-2) over (1:0.9.git20250622-1) ... Preparing to unpack .../hurd-libs0.3_1%3a0.9.git20250622-2_hurd-i386.deb ... Unpacking hurd-libs0.3:hurd-i386 (1:0.9.git20250622-2) over (1:0.9.git20250622-1) ... Setting up hurd-libs0.3:hurd-i386 (1:0.9.git20250622-2) ... (Reading database ... 39803 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../hurd_1%3a0.9.git20250622-2_hurd-i386.deb ... Unpacking hurd (1:0.9.git20250622-2) over (1:0.9.git20250622-1) ... Setting up hurd (1:0.9.git20250622-2) ... update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/w-hurd because link group w is broken update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/bin/w with a link Restarting Hurd console multiplexer: hurd-console. Setting up translators: /hurd/exec /hurd/proxy-defpager /hurd/pflocal (+link) inet (+link) inet6 (+link) /hurd/pci-arbiter /hurd/acpi /hurd/shutdown /hurd/password crash-kill crash-suspend crash-dump-core crash. Creating device nodes: fdln: failed to access 'stdin/0': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stdout/1': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stderr/2': Not a directory fdX stdsettrans: console: Device or resource busy ln: failed to access 'stdin/0': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stdout/1': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stderr/2': Not a directory vcs hdX hdXsY hdXs1Y sdX sdXsY sdXs1Y rumpdisk wdX wdXsY wdXs1Y cdX netdde ethX pseudo-root rtc loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq lprX comX random urandom kbd mouse shm. (Reading database ... 39804 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../python3-minimal_3.13.5-1_hurd-i386.deb ... Unpacking python3-minimal (3.13.5-1) over (3.13.4-1) ... Setting up python3-minimal (3.13.5-1) ...
Hello, Martin-Éric Racine, le mar. 01 juil. 2025 12:07:56 +0300, a ecrit: This is because cmd ln -f -s fd/0 stdin does not take care of the case when /dev/stdin already exist. This doesn't have any consequence, but could be fixed by checking whether the symlink already exists. This is more surpring since -K is passed, so st() is supposed to check that the translator is already set up. That needs some more investigation in the MAKEDEV script. Samuel
ti 1.7.2025 klo 12.38 Samuel Thibault (sthibault@debian.org) kirjoitti: Agreed. Preparing to unpack .../hurd_1%3a0.9.git20250622-3+b1_hurd-i386.deb ... Unpacking hurd (1:0.9.git20250622-3+b1) over (1:0.9.git20250622-2) ... Setting up hurd (1:0.9.git20250622-3+b1) ... update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/w-hurd because link group w is broken update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/bin/w with a link Restarting Hurd console multiplexer: hurd-console. Setting up translators: /hurd/exec /hurd/proxy-defpager /hurd/pflocal (+link) inet (+link) inet6 (+link) /hurd/pci-arbiter /hurd/acpi /hurd/shutdown /hurd/password crash-kill crash-suspend crash-dump-core crash. Creating device nodes: fdln: failed to access 'stdin/0': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stdout/1': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stderr/2': Not a directory fdX stdsettrans: console: Device or resource busy ln: failed to access 'stdin/0': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stdout/1': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stderr/2': Not a directory vcs hdX hdXsY hdXs1Y sdX sdXsY sdXs1Y rumpdisk wdX wdXsY wdXs1Y rumpusbdisk udX udXsY udXs1Y cdX netdde ethX pseudo-root rtc loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq lprX comX random urandom kbd mouse shm. (Reading database ... 39849 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../gnumach-common_2%3a1.8+git20250702-1_hurd-i386.deb ... Martin-Éric
Martin-Éric Racine, le jeu. 03 juil. 2025 12:43:53 +0300, a ecrit: ? There is no difference that I can see.
ti 1.7.2025 klo 12.38 Samuel Thibault (sthibault@debian.org) kirjoitti: $ ls -al stdin stdout stderr lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2025-05-01 21:11 stderr -> fd/2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2025-05-01 21:11 stdin -> fd/0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2025-05-01 21:11 stdout -> fd/1 It really should ship with a script to normalize this as needed. $ sudo LC_ALL=C dpkg-reconfigure hurd update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/w-hurd because link group w is broken update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/bin/w with a link Restarting Hurd console multiplexer: hurd-console. Setting up translators: /hurd/exec /hurd/proxy-defpager /hurd/pflocal (+link) inet (+link) inet6 (+link) /hurd/pci-arbiter /hurd/acpi /hurd/shutdown /hurd/password crash-kill crash-suspend crash-dump-core crash. Creating device nodes: fdln: failed to access 'stdin/0': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stdout/1': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stderr/2': Not a directory fdX stdsettrans: console: Device or resource busy ln: failed to access 'stdin/0': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stdout/1': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stderr/2': Not a directory vcs hdX hdXsY hdXs1Y sdX sdXsY sdXs1Y rumpdisk wdX wdXsY wdXs1Y rumpusbdisk udX udXsY udXs1Y cdX ucdX/sbin/MAKEDEV: ucd0: Invalid device name: must supply a device number netdde ethX pseudo-root rtc loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq lprX comX random urandom kbd mouse shm. Martin-Éric
Martin-Éric Racine, le ven. 22 août 2025 13:47:21 +0300, a ecrit: Sure, it "just" needs somebody to take care of it. "could" above doesn't mean that I plan to take the time to fix it. Contribution is always welcome. Samuel
Hello, Le 22/08/2025 à 13:25, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Attached is a patch for this. I don't understand what is meant here. Cheers,
la 23.8.2025 klo 12.52 Stéphane Glondu (glondu@debian.org) kirjoitti: That patch merely skips the linking if the std devices exist under the old structure. It doesn't update them to what the linking would produce. It means that if the structure of std devices is not what's expected nowadays, such as in the above case, one should be able to dpkg-reconfigure or run a script to update it. Martin-Éric
Le 23/08/2025 à 12:37, Martin-Éric Racine a écrit : Ah, OK. Then isn't simply adding -T to ln enough? Attached is an updated patch. Cheers,
Stéphane Glondu, le sam. 23 août 2025 12:55:53 +0200, a ecrit: It seems to be doing it, applied, thanks!
Hello again, la 23.8.2025 klo 23.26 Samuel Thibault (sthibault@debian.org) kirjoitti: Setting up hurd (1:0.9.git20250801-5) ... update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/w-hurd because link group w is broken update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/bin/w with a link Restarting Hurd console multiplexer: hurd-console. Setting up translators: /hurd/exec /hurd/proxy-defpager /hurd/pflocal (+link) inet (+link) inet6 (+link) /hurd/pci-arbiter /hurd/acpi /hurd/shutdown /hurd/password crash-kill crash-suspend crash-dump-core crash. Creating device nodes: fdln: failed to access 'stdin/0': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stdout/1': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stderr/2': Not a directory fdX stdsettrans: console: Device or resource busy ln: failed to access 'stdin/0': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stdout/1': Not a directory ln: failed to access 'stderr/2': Not a directory vcs hdX hdXsY hdXs1Y sdX sdXsY sdXs1Y rumpdisk wdX wdXsY wdXs1Y rumpusbdisk udX udXsY udXs1Y cdX ucdX/sbin/MAKEDEV: ucd0: Invalid device name: must supply a device number netdde ethX pseudo-root rtc loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq lprX comX random urandom kbd mouse shm. (Reading database ... 47540 files and directories currently installed.) Martin-Éric
Martin-Éric Racine, le sam. 18 oct. 2025 13:02:22 +0300, a ecrit: When a newer upstream snapshot will be taken. Samuel
la 18.10.2025 klo 15.04 Samuel Thibault (sthibault@debian.org) kirjoitti: Setting up hurd (1:0.9.git20251029-1) ... update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/w-hurd because link group w is broken update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/bin/w with a link Restarting Hurd console multiplexer: hurd-console. Setting up translators: /hurd/exec /hurd/proxy-defpager /hurd/pflocal (+link) inet (+link) inet6 (+link) /hurd/pci-arbiter /hurd/acpi /hurd/shutdown /hurd/password crash-kill crash-suspend crash-dump-core crash. Creating device nodes: fd fdX stdsettrans: console: Device or resource busy vcs hdX hdXsY hdXs1Y sdX sdXsY sdXs1Y rumpdisk wdX wdXsY wdXs1Y rumpusbdisk udX udXsY udXs1Y cdX ucdX/sbin/MAKEDEV: ucd0: Invalid device name: must supply a device number netdde ethX pseudo-root rtc loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq lprX comX random urandom kbd mouse shm. (Reading database ... 47552 files and directories currently installed.) Martin-Éric
Martin-Éric Racine, le sam. 01 nov. 2025 15:48:48 +0200, a ecrit: Some shell expansion was indeed wrong for ucd0, will be fixed in next upload. Samuel
la 1.11.2025 klo 22.09 Samuel Thibault (sthibault@debian.org) kirjoitti: Setting up hurd (1:0.9.git20251029-2) ... update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/w-hurd because link group w is broken update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/bin/w with a link Restarting Hurd console multiplexer: hurd-console. Setting up translators: /hurd/exec /hurd/proxy-defpager /hurd/pflocal (+link) inet (+link) inet6 (+link) /hurd/pci-arbiter /hurd/acpi /hurd/shutdown /hurd/password crash-kill crash-suspend crash-dump-core crash. Creating device nodes: fd fdX stdsettrans: console: Device or resource busy vcs hdX hdXsY hdXs1Y sdX sdXsY sdXs1Y rumpdisk wdX wdXsY wdXs1Y rumpusbdisk udX udXsY udXs1Y cdX ucdX netdde ethX pseudo-root rtc loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq lprX comX random urandom kbd mouse shm. (Reading database ... 47565 files and directories currently installed.) That only leaves the console and w. Btw, I don't know if the snapshot included other fixes, but this Hurd seems to boot a tad faster than the Trixie snapshot. Hurray! :) Martin-Éric
Martin-Éric Racine, le mar. 04 nov. 2025 08:58:02 +0200, a ecrit: I'm not getting those. Samuel
to 6.11.2025 klo 0.46 Samuel Thibault (sthibault@debian.org) kirjoitti: Setting up hurd (1:0.9.git20251029-3+b1) ... update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/w-hurd because link group w is broken update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/bin/w with a link Restarting Hurd console multiplexer: hurd-console. Setting up translators: /hurd/exec /hurd/proxy-defpager /hurd/pflocal (+link) inet (+link) inet6 (+link) /hurd/pci-arbiter /hurd/acpi /hurd/shutdown /hurd/password crash-kill crash-suspend crash-dump-core crash. Creating device nodes: fd fdX stdsettrans: console: Device or resource busy vcs hdX hdXsY hdXs1Y sdX sdXsY sdXs1Y rumpdisk wdX wdXsY wdXs1Y rumpusbdisk udX udXsY udXs1Y cdX ucdX netdde ethX pseudo-root rtc loopX ttyX ptyp ptyq lprX comX random urandom kbd mouse shm. This host was installed using crosshurd. I wonder whether it might have something to do with it? I also get "resources busy" during boot when initscripts try to change shm permissions. Martin-Éric
su 8.2.2026 klo 11.39 Martin-Éric Racine (martin-eric.racine@iki.fi) kirjoitti: Here's a screenshot of the exact boot messages. Martin-Éric