#1111121 installation-reports: After install in speech synth mode, at the first login debian assistive tech are not enabled

#1111121#5
Date:
2025-08-14 21:18:11 UTC
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Boot method: DVD
Image version:
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/13.0.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-13.0.0-amd64-mate.iso
Date: 2025 08 14

Machine: lenovo l480
Partitions:
udev           devtmpfs    937748        0    937748   0% /dev
tmpfs          tmpfs       202124     1004    201120   1% /run
/dev/sda1      ext4      13349164 10340324   2308936  82% /
tmpfs          tmpfs      1010608        4   1010604   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs          tmpfs         5120        8      5112   1% /run/lock
tmpfs          tmpfs         1024        0      1024   0%
/run/credentials/systemd-journald.service
tmpfs          tmpfs      1010612       16   1010596   1% /tmp
tmpfs          tmpfs         1024        0      1024   0%
/run/credentials/getty@tty1.service
tmpfs          tmpfs       202120     4708    197412   3% /run/user/1000


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:           [O]
Detect network card:    [O]
Configure network:      [O]
Detect media:           [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:    [O]
Detect hard drives:     [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:    [O]
Install tasks:          [O]
Install boot loader:    [O]
Overall install:        [O]

Comments/Problems:

After installing in **speech synthesizer mode**,
on first login, Debian assistive technologies are not enabled.

I must do the overall installation for my friend cos he was
unable to enable the speed synth in any other debian live disk
rather than the Gnome flavour that is very nonsense for low end
machines, and minimal installs let the system very limited for
blind eye people.

He try to activate the assistive techs but was unable to cos the
way path are so so complex and large:

Bar(Menu) -> SystemMenu -> ControlCenter

The Bar menu are accessible without any sound tips, the Crtl+f1
only activates the application menu of MATE, LXDE or Xfce.

Over LXDE there is no way to get the preferences of assistive tech
cos is under LXsession preferences that is not assisted
(yet in such moment)

As i know he installed several times with the speech synth installer
and at the end the desktops is assisted by default!

#1111121#10
Date:
2025-08-30 00:09:24 UTC
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Hello,

Itamar Perdomo, le jeu. 14 août 2025 17:18:11 -0400, a ecrit:

How did you enable speech synthesizer mode? Did you select "Start
installer with speech synthesis" at the cdrom boot menu?

As reportbug would normally do on the installed system, we'd really need
to see the installation logs of the installed system, to see what
happened. They are in /var/log/installer

Samuel

#1111121#15
Date:
2025-09-03 16:20:50 UTC
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Hi, sorry for delay, I run normal installer with speed synth already
enabled.. used the second-to-last option. I sent this email on behalf of my
blind friend, because my blind friend, who will also reply to this email
later (since I've told him how), was the one who discovered the problem.

I also performed the procedure, and to give you the files, I'll have to do
it again this weekend.

However, I must also explain to my friend how to do it, since the reportbug
script isn't understandable in Orca becouse english are not our main
language, making it impossible for him to report the problem. However, he
can reply to the emails.

I'll try to get him to make a video so you can see the problem in more
depth, in addition to the log files.

#1111121#20
Date:
2025-09-03 16:28:31 UTC
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Itamar Perdomo, le mer. 03 sept. 2025 12:20:50 -0400, a ecrit:

Well, you mentioned the live image, which is already not the normal
installer.

Really, the details do matter. How did you enable the speech? Was it
running in a graphical session with colors etc. or in a text-only
session all white-on-black?

second-to-last option of the boot menu is "Advanced install options",
not speech...

Now, that being said, it was reported that the live image currently
misses apt-setup-udeb, thus disabling using network to install packages,
which can be the reason for missing speech packages. It will be fixed in
the 13.1 live images.

Samuel

#1111121#25
Date:
2025-09-03 16:32:55 UTC
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Assuming that you did not reinstall, the log of the installer are in
"/var/log/installer" on the installed system, simply archiving those
should be enough as a starting point.

#1111121#30
Date:
2025-09-03 16:58:03 UTC
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Samuel Thibault, le mer. 03 sept. 2025 18:28:31 +0200, a ecrit:

Ah, sorry, misunderstood "second-to-last". So ok, that's the usual
speech installation.

Better wait for the 13.1 live images, which is scheduled to be built on
september 6th.

Samuel