#1120326 gdm3: 49 doesn't start with Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650

Package:
gdm3
Source:
gdm3
Description:
GNOME Display Manager
Submitter:
Date:
2025-11-08 11:07:01 UTC
Severity:
normal
#1120326#5
Date:
2025-11-07 17:22:03 UTC
From:
To:
Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where
appropriate ***

    * What led up to the situation?

Upgrading from gnome 48 to gnome 49?

    * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
      ineffective)?

Uncommenting "WaylandEnable=false" in /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf allowed at
least to switch to a text console with ctrl-alt-fn (before this change,
I could not even switch to a text console).
Then I was able to look at journalctl wich displays a lot of copies of:

nov. 07 16:47:38 lehrin gdm3[2442]: Gdm: GdmSession: no session desktop
files installed, aborting...
nov. 07 16:47:38 lehrin systemd[1]: gdm.service: Main process exited,
code=killed, status=5/TRAP
nov. 07 16:47:38 lehrin systemd[1]: gdm.service: Failed with result
'signal'.
nov. 07 16:47:38 lehrin systemd[1]: gdm.service: Triggering OnFailure=
dependencies.
nov. 07 16:47:39 lehrin systemd[1]: gdm.service: Scheduled restart job,
restart counter is at 2.
nov. 07 16:47:39 lehrin systemd[1]: Starting gdm.service - GNOME Display
Manager...
nov. 07 16:47:40 lehrin systemd[1]: Started gdm.service - GNOME Display
Manager.
nov. 07 16:47:40 lehrin gdm-launch-environment][2502]:
pam_unix(gdm-launch-environment:session): session opened for user
gdm-greeter(uid=605)

I checked the sessions folders, they are here:

(lehrin) luc% ls -l /usr/share/wayland-sessions/
total 56
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8240 31 oct.  13:34 gnome-classic.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8364 31 oct.  13:34 gnome-classic-wayland.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8014 31 oct.  14:23 gnome.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8570 31 oct.  14:23 gnome-wayland.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9175 22 août  17:07 xfce-wayland.desktop
(lehrin) luc% ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    86 21 juin   2024 lightdm-xsession.desktop
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10257 22 août  17:07 xfce.desktop
(lehrin) luc%

The only thing that worked was to install task-xfce-desktop, i.e. to not
use gdm3 at all.

This seems very close to bug #1119809, but the differences are that I
was *not* able to switch console,
and that I encountered that on 49.1-6, i.e. after the fix for #1119809.

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#1120326#10
Date:
2025-11-07 17:43:41 UTC
From:
To:
Control: severity -1 important

Please provide details of your graphics hardware and the drivers you use.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

#1120326#17
Date:
2025-11-07 18:07:59 UTC
From:
To:
The graphic card is :

     VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation TU117 [GeForce GTX
1650] (rev a1)

I use the nvidia drivers:

root@lehrin:~# lsmod | grep nvi
nvidia_drm            126976  12
drm_ttm_helper         16384  1 nvidia_drm
drm_client_lib         12288  1 nvidia_drm
drm_kms_helper        258048  3 drm_ttm_helper,nvidia_drm,drm_client_lib
nvidia_modeset       1605632  12 nvidia_drm
nvidia              60710912  219 nvidia_drm,nvidia_modeset
video                  81920  2 asus_wmi,nvidia_modeset
drm                   835584  19
drm_kms_helper,nvidia,drm_ttm_helper,nvidia_drm,drm_client_lib,ttm
root@lehrin:~#

#1120326#24
Date:
2025-11-07 19:14:53 UTC
From:
To:
I don't have Nvidia hardware so I don't think I can solve this, but
let's get some more information.

What specific version of the Nvidia drivers do you have installed?

You provided an excerpt of your systemd journal, but perhaps the error
happens earlier. I suggest restarting your computer and then run
something like
journalctl -b > 1120326-journal.txt
and reply to this bug with that file attached.

Do you know if your system was able to run GNOME with Wayland before?
I think that is a hard requirement to use GDM 49 and it will be
enforced even stronger with GNOME 50.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

#1120326#29
Date:
2025-11-07 20:30:44 UTC
From:
To:
Le 2025-11-07 20:14, Jeremy Bícha a écrit :

I have nvidia-driver 550.163.01-3

I did try to remove completely the nvidia drivers  during my tests this
afternoon,
but it did not help. I don't know it it is because the problem is not
related to these
drivers or if it is because I did something wrong when attempting to
remove them,
so we cannot rule out anything with these attempts.

In order to achive this, I had to run "dpkg-reconfigure gdm3" to reset
the
manager from lightdm to gdm3 and then reboot. As expected, gdm failed to
start after
that and I was stuck with a black screen and no way to switch to a
console. The
system was up, though, so I was able to log in remotely from another
computer using ssh,
and I could run the journalctl -b command and save the file somewhere
before rebooting again
and resetting lightdm up.

The error I see in the journal output are different for the one I
reported earlier! Maybe it is because
here I got the error prior to go back to xfce. So I guess the errors
here will be more helpful to
undestand what happened.

I have used gnome since years on this machine and in fact never looked
what it used under
the hood. I just used the default dependencies and settings. It ran fine
until this morning. When did
gnome switch to wayland?

Well, it is the downside of using debian testing; sometimes it falls
apart, I know that.

best regards,
Luc

#1120326#34
Date:
2025-11-07 20:42:46 UTC
From:
To:
Control: block -1 by 1081302

Debian's packaged Nvidia drivers are outdated. See
https://bugs.debian.org/1081302

I think this may be a blocking issue for you to use Nvidia graphics
with GNOME on Wayland. GNOME on Wayland is the only way to use GNOME
after Debian 13.

https://wiki.debian.org/Wayland says that Debian GNOME has used
Wayland by default since Debian 10. That's only half true; I believe
at least some hardware still defaulted to Xorg even for Debian 13.

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

#1120326#41
Date:
2025-11-07 21:42:05 UTC
From:
To:
Le 2025-11-07 21:42, Jeremy Bícha a écrit :

OK, I have uninstalled the debian packaged drivers and installed the
latest proprietary
nvidia drivers (580.105.08), and booted again.
I still get a black screen.

I have attached the new output of journalctl -b with these drivers.

best regards,
Luc

#1120326#46
Date:
2025-11-07 22:51:36 UTC
From:
To:
I don't know how to help further.

In my last email, I meant to highlight these lines which are in this
journal and the previous journal:

gnome-shell: Thread 'KMS thread' will be using high priority scheduling
gnome-shell: Failed to open gpu '/dev/dri/card0':
DRM_CLIENT_CAP_UNIVERSAL_PLANES not supported
gnome-shell: Failed to setup: No GPUs found

Thank you,
Jeremy Bícha

#1120326#51
Date:
2025-11-08 11:05:04 UTC
From:
To:
I had the same problem. I fixed it by updating the nvidia drivers
to 555.58.02-1 from experimental and following the Wayland instructions
from the Debian Nvidia wiki
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Wayland

hope this helps
John

On Fri, 7 Nov 2025 17:51:36 -0500 =?UTF-8?Q?Jeremy_B=C3=ADcha?= < jbicha@debian.org> wrote: