#1120646 s-nail: requesting an option to remove noise after `~v`

Package:
s-nail
Source:
s-nail
Description:
feature-rich BSD mail(1)
Submitter:
Norman Ramsey
Date:
2025-11-17 19:53:02 UTC
Severity:
normal
#1120646#5
Date:
2025-11-13 21:06:41 UTC
From:
To:
Dear Maintainer,

Suppose I send an email with `s-nail $ADDRESS`, then enter a Subject:,
then hit `~v`.  The file I am given to edit begins with these two lines:

    # Message will be discarded unless file is saved
    # To:, Cc: and Bcc: support a ?single modifier: To?: exa, <m@ple>

I have looked at the source code, and I do not see a way to prevent
these lines from being added.  I would like an option to turn off
this text.
#1120646#10
Date:
2025-11-13 23:06:23 UTC
From:
To:
Norman Ramsey wrote in
 <176306800180.1233982.16085782075591409694.reportbug@homedog.cs.tufts.edu>:
 |Package: s-nail
 |Version: 14.9.25-1
 |Severity: wishlist
 |
 |Dear Maintainer,
 |
 |Suppose I send an email with `s-nail $ADDRESS`, then enter a Subject:,
 |then hit `~v`.  The file I am given to edit begins with these two lines:
 |
 |    # Message will be discarded unless file is saved
 |    # To:, Cc: and Bcc: support a ?single modifier: To?: exa, <m@ple>

That will be even more in `reply' cases.

 |I have looked at the source code, and I do not see a way to prevent
 |these lines from being added.  I would like an option to turn off
 |this text.

    [-] Add *expert* option (Norman Ramsey)
...
     expert    (Boolean) Reduces interface chattiness: for power users and old
               hands.  (To be extended on request.)

But it will still be certain months before we release v14.10,
sorry.

Btw you can "set editalong" and directly jump into $EDITOR, or
"set editalong=v" to directly go ~v, so to say.  And you can
create a keybinding, as in

  bind compose :kf1 ~v

then hitting F1 in compose mode should go ~v, too.  (But note "~"
is actually the *escape* variable, i have "se escape=!" ...)

Ciao, and greetings from Germany.
And "Ciao" also Paride!!!
#1120646#15
Date:
2025-11-16 21:37:33 UTC
From:
To:
Control: severity -1 wishlist

I'll gladly close this with the first v14.10 upload, for now I marked it
as wishlist.

Cheers!

Paride
#1120646#20
Date:
2025-11-17 19:50:33 UTC
From:
To:
Hello Paride, ciao!

Paride Legovini wrote in
 <38e2aab3-6a22-4b71-9b3d-b8da61600c9a@debian.org>:
 |Control: severity -1 wishlist
 |
 |On 2025-11-14 00.06, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote:
 |> Norman Ramsey wrote in
 |>  <176306800180.1233982.16085782075591409694.reportbug@homedog.cs.tufts.ed\
 |>  u>:
 |>|Package: s-nail
 |>|Version: 14.9.25-1
 |>|Severity: wishlist
 |>|
 |>|Dear Maintainer,
 |>|
 |>|Suppose I send an email with `s-nail $ADDRESS`, then enter a Subject:,
 |>|then hit `~v`.  The file I am given to edit begins with these two lines:
 |>|
 |>|    # Message will be discarded unless file is saved
 |>|    # To:, Cc: and Bcc: support a ?single modifier: To?: exa, <m@ple>
 |>
 |> That will be even more in `reply' cases.
 |>
 |>|I have looked at the source code, and I do not see a way to prevent
 |>|these lines from being added.  I would like an option to turn off
 |>|this text.
 |>
 |>     [-] Add *expert* option (Norman Ramsey)
 |> ...
 |>      expert    (Boolean) Reduces interface chattiness: for power \
 |>      users and old
 |>                hands.  (To be extended on request.)
 |>
 |> But it will still be certain months before we release v14.10,
 |> sorry.
 |
 |I'll gladly close this with the first v14.10 upload, for now I marked it
 |as wishlist.

P.S.: these documentory comments will also be hidden via "set
quiet", but that suppresses even more:

     expert    (Boolean) Towards a quiet†, unchatty user interface: for power
               users and old hands.  (To be extended on request.)

     quiet     (Boolean) Reduce user interface chattiness (for expert†s):
               •   do not show version† upon startup.
               •   minimize / hide technical MIME information of type† etc.
               •   do no include informational comments when editing the mes‐
                   sage draft (˜e†, ˜v†, etc) in Compose mode† with
                   editheaders† set.

Thanks.  Please stay on, it will take some months; maybe i will
have more time for programming again after new years eve.

Ciao Paride, Norman!