#1134913 texlive-lang-other: Please declare Breaks, Replaces against latex-fonts-arundina

#1134913#5
Date:
2026-04-25 17:20:06 UTC
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Dear Maintainer,

The recent texlive-lang-other has incorporated "fonts-arundina" package,
which was previously provided by the latex-fonts-arundina package
in Debian. The two packages happened to have no file conflict because
they install the same relevant contents under different roots
('/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist' for texlive-lang-other, and
'/usr/share/texlive/texmf' for latex-fonts-arundina), but they do
provide the same functionality.

So, the functionality should be passed on to texlive-lang-other,
and latex-fonts-arundina should be removed from the user's system
once the former is installed, via the Breaks/Replaces mechanism.

I will stop building latex-fonts-arundina soon.

Regards,
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan.

#1134913#10
Date:
2026-04-25 20:55:45 UTC
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Hi Theppitak

thanks for your email.

I am not the maintainer anymore, but have a few comments since I wrote
the original packaging.
available for X.

What I have normally done, and the Debian TeX Team is still doing, is
that in case of separate packaging of fonts, we do:
- do not ship the TeX Live version
- depend on the respective font package
- link the files into the texmf tree

This has several advantages:
* no duplication of font files
* font remains available to X/fontconfig
* font is also available for TeX (xetex/luatex)

If you want to stop working on the latex-fonts-arundina package, that is
fine, and the breaks/replaces should be put in place.

If the above does make sense (mostly automatic availability for X), then
the described way might be a good option.

Best regards

Norbert

#1134913#15
Date:
2026-04-26 05:46:23 UTC
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Hi Norbert,

Nice to hear your opinion on this.

Sounds good. However, there are two parts to handle,
one is the PFB+VF for pdfTeX, and the other is the TTF
for X/fontconfig. Currently, the former is shipped in both
texlive-lang-other and latex-fonts-arundina, and the latter
in fonts-arundina separately.

So, there is no resource that links to X/fontconfig yet
in all CTAN stuff anyway.

To be in sync with upstream TeX Live, I think the links
into texmf tree should be delayed until the TTF (or OTF
as I intend to switch to in the future) is actually included
in CTAN.

That means maintaining latex-fonts-arundina myself
should minimize the need for communication work.

As described above, I think your approach is more appropriate.
So, let's exclude fonts-arundina stuff in texlive-lang-other
and add latex-fonts-arundina dependency instead.

Should the same be done to fonts-tlwg, then? But I have to revive
latex-fonts-tlwg first. (It was previously dropped in favor of the TeX Live
version.)

Best regards,
Theppitak.

#1134913#20
Date:
2026-04-26 08:37:43 UTC
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Hi Theppitak,

Thanks for your email and feedback!

I leave all this to Hilmar, since I am not involved anymore.
I only wanted to point out the possible ways forward, but leave it to
you two to decide.

Since I am not using Debian, for me anything is fine.

Best regards

Norbert

#1134913#25
Date:
2026-05-06 19:11:30 UTC
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Am 25.04.2026 um 19:20 schrieb Theppitak Karoonboonyanan:

Hello,

sorry for not reacting yet, I'll try to answer ASAP.

Hilmar