I like the -f option for ssh and think it should be included in scp
(perhaps automatically enabling -q).

Thank you.

Rob

Hello Rob,

please report your wish to the upstream project.

Debian itself can nothing do about it.

Regards,
Christian

Control: reopen -1

While I would encourage somebody to file this upstream if they still
want it, this is not a valid reason to close a Debian bug report.  We
actively encourage people to file bugs in Debian
(https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting), and we have the "forwarded"
state for bugs that have been forwarded upstream.

Hello Colin,
thank you for the feedback.

What is the value for Debian to have ticket open that they can not fix?
Only upstream can solve this.

I also see no forwarded (linked) upstream ticket at #131090.

Regards,
Christian

Am 02.06.2026 09:56 schrieb Colin Watson:

The standard for a Debian bug isn't that it can only be fixed by Debian
developers, but that it is a bug in the software we ship in Debian.

In fact we do often fix bugs in advance of upstream by way of patches,
if it seems necessary.  True, I wouldn't do that in that case; but you
aren't the package maintainer and you didn't consult with the package
maintainer.

Hello Colin,
thank you for explaining. I try to consider this next time.

Am 02.06.2026 11:43 schrieb Colin Watson:

Please don't throw the maintainer argument at me. There was no response
for 24 years in this issue. So it seems to me that there is no active
maintainer or the maintainer does not care. But I care and focusing
especially on the oldest and inactive tickets in Debian. I am handling
in the interest of the Debian GNU/Linux project, working against its
long year image that it is old, outdated and inactive. Keeping tickets
open of that age without a good reason doesn't help.

Regards,
Christian

Oh come on, this is just a bad-faith argument.  If you look at
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/openssh for more than two seconds it's
pretty obvious that I'm active.  It doesn't follow that I have time to
address every single bug; I am human and have finite time, which I have
to prioritize.

Having to spend time on this kind of argument doesn't help.

All you needed to do was ask first.

Finding bugs that have actually been fixed (e.g. #166638 recently) _is_
helpful, though, and I appreciate that.

Hello Collin,
thank you for sticking with me in this discussion. I am open to learning
and really trying to understand DM behavior. Next beer is on me.

Am 02.06.2026 13:43 schrieb Colin Watson:

I am an upstream maintainer; not a DM for obviously reasons. ;)
Don't throw the free time argument. It is FOSS and your responsibility
to manage your resources.  This also includes to see borders and
restrictions and react to them. Don't use "time" as an excusse. This is
not about fixing the issue but just reacting to it, review it and giving
a direction for extern contributors.

There was no response to this ticket for 24 years. Sorry, but this is
not acceptable, especially in your case where you seem to have been
active in other tickets.

Even if this ticket would have gotten the lowest possible priority on
your task list you should have been able to react on it in the time span
of 24 years. You might be overloaded with work? Or your workflow need
optimization? Or what else could be the reason that a ticket is 24 years
without any response?

This is not Ubuntu, AntiX or any other distros. It is Debian and half of
the other distros out there are derived from it. This comes with a
responsibility.

It helps to draw the boundaries of quality maintenance. I refuse to
accept this dont-react-for-decades-but-ask-first-attitute.

Sorry, but not after 24 years. This is not polite to me or the ticket
opener.

So we agree that we disagree on some aspects about how maintenance
should look like which tasks to prioritize.

Regards,
Christian Buhtz

I strongly advise that you revisit your attitude in terms of what you
expect from volunteers.  I have been doing my best for decades.  Help is
great; interfering and rudely criticizing is not.

Don't expect any further reply from me on this.

Hello Colin,

thank you for this reply.

Am 02.06.2026 14:18 schrieb Colin Watson:

I don't expect less as from myself.
And again you have thrown the volunteer card on me, as an excuse. That
does not gonna work.
I don't expect less from you only because you are not paid for your
work.

Think about why you experience this as rude. My goal was to express my
opinion based on
expertise and experience, from one volunteer to another. I approached
with all respect,
especially because you are doing this on a free base. My critic was
going to your workflow
not to you as a person.

Best regards,
Christian