I would like to be able to download an mbox file for arbitrary messages
from the Debian Mailing List archives. This would allow for complete
information about the message to be available to users and allow users to
import the messages properly and easily into their e-mail client (makes
for nice, proper replies with Message-ID, Mail-followup-to and other
headers imported).

This bug is related to 161440 but is not the same.

Ideally this bug would be resolved with links included in the html archive
generated by MHonArc. A bug may need to be filed with the authors (and
possibly the packagers) of MHonArc as well.

     Drew Daniels

tag 161440 wontfix
tag 181385 wontfix
thanks

Hi,

the reason mbox archives are currently not provided via the web
archive is a policy decision, not a technical one.
To reflect this, I'm tagging the bugs wontfix.

Kind regards

T.

Hi,

Can I at least have a link or copy of this policy? Is delivery via an
alternative open mechanism against policy?

One of my problems is that I will sometimes stumble across messages that I
want to reply to from lists that I'm not subscribed to. It's been an extra
hurdle to copy out the appropriate email headers in order to respect
people's wishes when replying. Examples of headers are the
Mail-Followup-To, and Message-ID headers (for composing in reply to
headers to maintain proper threading). Being able to download an
individual message like I propose in 161440 helps with this as does being
able to download the entire mbox archive like I propose in 181385.

I believe my problem is technical, though the choice not to provide the
convenience of mbox archives for non-developers is policy. Perhaps the
problem in my paragraph above is worthy of a separate bug?

Having the full original text of a message could also display information
not available through alternative sources.

Having mbox archives can also allow me to pick alternative email reading
interfaces when I find a thread that I'm interested in.

Thanks,

     Drew Daniels

Hi,
provide mboxes) for this bug is readily available[1], but the Listmaster team
has decided to not deploy it.
web. It is not a policy written in a policy document. My message to the bug
is a public announcement of that policy, so if you want to discuss the policy,
link to my message to these bugs.
As to the rationale: Making mboxes available facilitates harvesting of mail
addresses even more than the web archives.

No, please do not file a separate bug. We already have these two bugs about
accessing list archives through other means than the HTML web pages.
If it helps, you could try to discuss this on #debian-lists on IRC before
continuing here or per email. Having implemented the above-mentioned scripts
to provide mboxes, me might  in arguing the case against having them not
be too compelling.

Kind regards

Thomas

1. This is not quite as "duh" as it sounds because we do not presently store
   spam-cleansed mboxes.

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