#225859 Debian's MX rejects mail to mailing lists with root as Sender

Package:
lists.debian.org
Source:
lists.debian.org
Submitter:
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
Date:
2025-02-08 02:36:40 UTC
Severity:
normal
Tags:
#225859#5
Date:
2004-01-02 02:11:12 UTC
From:
To:
i made a report about gnophone, which was not possible to send because
there is no entry in the bugtracking system for gnophone.

reportbug wanted to send the report to the maintainer, direct, and 5
mins later i got this:
Return-path: <list@murphy.debian.org>
Envelope-to: lkcl@localhost
Delivery-date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:06:35 +0000
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost)
	by lkcl.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24)
	id 1AcEhv-0001bW-MG
	for lkcl@localhost; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:06:35 +0000
Received: from lkcl.net [81.130.182.103]
	by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.3)
	for lkcl@localhost (single-drop); Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:06:35 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from lkcl.net ([unix socket])
	by hyd (Cyrus v2.1.15-IPv6-Debian-2.1.15-10) with LMTP; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:10:45 +0000
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2
Received: from fate.rince.de ([212.126.219.54]:58862 helo=angua.rince.de)
	by lkcl.net with esmtp (Exim 4.24 #1)
	id 1AcElt-000643-4O
	for <lkcl@lkcl.net>; Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:10:41 +0000
Received: by angua.rince.de (Postfix)
	id 75AAED82D; Fri,  2 Jan 2004 02:57:35 +0100 (CET)
Delivered-To: lkcl@angua.rince.de
Received: from baerbel.mug.maschinenbau.tu-darmstadt.de (baerbel.mug.maschinenbau.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.48.97])
	by angua.rince.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6701D807
	for <lkcl@angua.rince.de>; Fri,  2 Jan 2004 02:57:34 +0100 (CET)
Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [146.82.138.6])
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	for <lkcl@samba-tng.org>; Fri, 2 Jan 2004 02:57:40 +0100
Received: by murphy.debian.org (Postfix, from userid 38)
	id DD9DDEBD7; Thu,  1 Jan 2004 19:57:36 -0600 (CST)
To: lkcl@samba-tng.org
References: <E1AcEYt-0001ZF-Ez@lkcl.net>
In-Reply-To: <E1AcEYt-0001ZF-Ez@lkcl.net>
From: Debian Listmaster <listmaster@lists.debian.org>
Message-Id: <20040102015736.DD9DDEBD7@murphy.debian.org>
Date: Thu,  1 Jan 2004 19:57:36 -0600 (CST)
X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: list@murphy.debian.org
Subject: Re: gnophone: segmentation fault at startup time
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Unfortunately it's currently impossible to use the Debian mailing lists with
a e-mail address that matches procmail's check for mail coming from a daemon.

This means that a username may not have "mail", "admin", "root", "master",
"list" or similar strings in it (see procmailrc(5) for "FROM_DAEMON").

We apologize for the inconvenience and ask you to consider using some other
username.

Below please find all headers of your mail:

#225859#26
Date:
2007-11-22 20:24:12 UTC
From:
To:
That is on purpose, we get too much spam from root senders
#225859#31
Date:
2011-12-04 17:39:32 UTC
From:
To:
I understand the reasoning for not allowing some From fields...

However, it does cause trouble (and has caused it to me recently too, using
quite legitimate and working root@domain.name email) -- and I guess some of
the reporters do not notice it doesn't show up (especially as it takes some
time to show up on the web anyway, and by the time it's up the submitter
forgets to recheck) and some may even give up reporting as result.

So may I suggest that this (somewhat peculiar) feature be documented at
least at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting ?

And/or (even better) modifying reportbug so it will refuse such From:
addresses ?

So people reporting bugs have a chance of configuring their reportbug
in a way the servers will receive bug reports.

Thanks,

#225859#36
Date:
2011-12-05 17:36:55 UTC
From:
To:
It is documented there. See:

Spamfighting and missing mail

The bug tracking system implements a rather extensive set of rules
designed to make sure that spam does not make it through the BTS.
While we try to minimize the number of false positives, they do occur.
If you suspect your mail has triggered a false positive, feel free to
contact owner@bugs.debian.org for assistance. Another common cause of
mail not making it through to the BTS is utilizing addresses which
match procmail's FROM_DAEMON, which includes mail from addresses like
mail@foobar.com. If you suspect your mail matches FROM_DAEMON, see
procmailrc(5) to verify, and then resend the mail using an address
which does not match FROM_DAEMON.

Feel free to file a bug against reportbug to do so.


Don Armstrong

#225859#41
Date:
2017-02-18 16:01:31 UTC
From:
To:
Dear Customer,

Your parcel was successfully delivered February 14 to UPS Station, but our courier cound not contact you.

Download postal receipt attached to e-mail!

Kind regards,
Scott Chamberlain,
UPS Senior Office Manager.

#225859#46
Date:
2025-02-08 04:49:20 UTC
From:
To:
Final Notice.

You are among the beneficiaries of 2024/2025 grant for all scam victims and relatives reconfirm your email if active for more details

Thank You.

Regards
Mr. Rowland Cole
( Financial Crimes Enforcement Network)