I assume the 'hold' you refer to in README.Debian is the 'locking'
of a version in the interface's package menu. Well, I tried to lock
APT to 0.5.26 for testing purposes, then installed a package and
quit the programme. Subsequently, APT tried to update to APT 0.5.27
from the command line.

I noticed how you use ~/.synaptic/preference instead. I wonder why,
but in any case... could you either

  - make synaptic use the global preferences file to incorporate it
    with the rest of the system, or
  - document that it uses pinning, but only internally. you might
    just leave that out since the it just does not matter and is of
    no interest.

Thanks for your bugreport.

I'll probably go with the second suggestion. Synaptic used to use the
global preferences file, but I removed this feature. The problem was,
that people got confused that locking inside synaptic broke there
apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade. They filed bugs against apt about it.

thanks,
 Michael

Hi, I'm not sure I understand Martin's suggestions, but if the situation
is that synaptic doesn't use /var/lib/dpkg/status to save the locked
packages because users were confused by apt-get being influenced by
synaptic so synaptic got its own file storing locked packages, please
consider this message as a wish to make optional using either the global
APT file or a synaptic-specific one.
I usually assume that a synaptic feature that has an effect equivalent
to an APT feature will be "compatible" with the APT feature, but the
current behavior of synaptic for locking breaks this expectation.

'Lock Version' uses private apt_preferences(5) (“pinning”).  This does
not interface with other apt and non-apt tools.  Replace this feature
with the universal dpkg holds.

Hi,

I want to second Daniel Hartwig: synaptic should really use the
universal dpkg holds. Anything else is quite confusing.

I expect that 'apt-get (dist)upgrade' respects the holds I have set with
synaptic. If anyone does not, there should at least be an option were
one can choose which behavior is wanted.

Best regards,
Andreas

Thanks for your mail.

Back when the locks got implemented in synaptic apt was not honoring
dpkg hold iirc and there was also the worry about portability
(i.e. using it on rpm systems). But I agree that nowdays it should use
dpkg holds.

I pushed a branch to lp:~mvo/synaptic/use-dpkg-hold that implements
the hold via dpkg holds. Its not doing a transition from the old to
the new style yet, that probably needs fixing but otherwise I think
its ready.

Cheers,
 Michael

Hi,

Thanks for implementing this.
Automatic transitioning from old to new style would be awesome, but if
that's too difficult, a entry in NEWS could be added explaining this.

Best regards,
Andreas

Thanks for looking into this almost 10 year old bug :)

Until this is fixed, we use a little trick to make apt-get recognize Synaptic's locks:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=199&t=150313#p785785

Basically it makes Synaptic's pinning system-wide.

Hi Vlad,
sudo ln -s /var/lib/synaptic/preferences
/etc/apt/preferences.d/locked_in_synaptic

Thanks for letting me know. I'm going to use this until synaptic fixes
this bug.

Best regards,
Andreas

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I have reported the bug #890668 about unattended-upgrades package
In it's recent version (0.99), this package upgrade all Debian packages (not
only security packages) even if they are blocked on Synaptic.

The maintainer of this package tells me to use :
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I suggest to use this function on Synaptic

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