#324715 dput: Move /etc/dput.cf under /etc/<package>/

Package:
dput
Source:
dput
Submitter:
Jari Aalto
Date:
2021-09-22 04:49:10 UTC
Severity:
minor
Tags:
#324715#5
Date:
2005-08-23 16:00:03 UTC
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The /etc hierarchy is quite polluted with various configuration files.
It would be better if packages kept configuration files under their
own directories (easier for backups etc.).

Please move /etc/dput.cf => /etc/<package>/config or
/etc/<package>/dput.cf

#324715#10
Date:
2005-08-23 16:28:41 UTC
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Hi,

Jari Aalto wrote:
Thank you for your effort to improve Debian. Note though that I'm at a
loss to comprehend how moving a single configuration file helps the case
at hand.

Kind regards

T.

P.S.: On a side note: Filing 10 bugs of this type might look like a mass
bug filing to people so it might be a good idea to raise the subject on
debian-devel in the future.

#324715#13
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2005-08-23 16:34:50 UTC
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Hi,

Jari Aalto wrote:
Thank you for your effort to improve Debian. Note though that I'm at a
loss to comprehend how moving a single configuration file helps the case
at hand.

Kind regards

T.

P.S.: On a side note: Filing 10 bugs of this type might look like a mass
bug filing to people so it might be a good idea to raise the subject on
debian-devel in the future.

#324715#18
Date:
2006-05-28 11:54:55 UTC
From:
To:
package dput
tag 324715 wontfix
thanks

I'm not agreeing with the rationale and the submitter didn't provide
further information, so I'm tagging this wontfix for now. Good arguments
in favor of this bug report may convince me...

Kind regards

T.

#324715#23
Date:
2006-05-28 20:51:10 UTC
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| package dput
| tag 324715 wontfix
| thanks
|
| I'm not agreeing with the rationale and the submitter didn't provide
| further information, so I'm tagging this wontfix for now. Good arguments
| in favor of this bug report may convince me...

In shared environment, where files are kept in version control, say:

       host  A  B  C
              \ | /
          H  -  o  - D
              / | \
             G  F  E

When the configuration fil is in

   hostA:/etc/dput/dput.conf

The directory:

   hostA:/etc/dput/

Can be shared and checked out in hosts:

   hostB:
   hostC:
   ..

Regardless of the other files in /etc. Making the
top level /etc/ under version control is does not help
sharing directories.

Please consider putting the file under separate directory help
maintenance in shared environments.

#324715#28
Date:
2006-05-28 20:51:10 UTC
From:
To:
| package dput
| tag 324715 wontfix
| thanks
|
| I'm not agreeing with the rationale and the submitter didn't provide
| further information, so I'm tagging this wontfix for now. Good arguments
| in favor of this bug report may convince me...

In shared environment, where files are kept in version control, say:

       host  A  B  C
              \ | /
          H  -  o  - D
              / | \
             G  F  E

When the configuration fil is in

   hostA:/etc/dput/dput.conf

The directory:

   hostA:/etc/dput/

Can be shared and checked out in hosts:

   hostB:
   hostC:
   ..

Regardless of the other files in /etc. Making the
top level /etc/ under version control is does not help
sharing directories.

Please consider putting the file under separate directory help
maintenance in shared environments.

#324715#33
Date:
2006-05-28 21:09:04 UTC
From:
To:
Hi Jari,

Jari Aalto wrote:
thank you for your explanation. I'm not quite convinced though that it
is hugely beneficial to version control dput.cf and that the advantages
outweigh the hassle of moving config files...
I will think about / entertain patches for a move of dput.cf in new
installations if it can be done without bothering existing installations.
Has there been some discussion, say on -devel, whether there is general
agreement to only have subdirs in /etc/? If so, I'd appreciate a pointer
because I'd not like dput to be the last packages to switch in that case. :)

Kind regards

T.

#324715#38
Date:
2006-05-29 12:13:28 UTC
From:
To:
| Hi Jari,
|
| Jari Aalto wrote:
| > Please consider putting the file under separate directory help
| > maintenance in shared environments.
|
| thank you for your explanation. I'm not quite convinced though that it
| is hugely beneficial to version control dput.cf and that the advantages
| outweigh the hassle of moving config files...
| I will think about / entertain patches for a move of dput.cf in new
| installations if it can be done without bothering existing installations.
| Has there been some discussion, say on -devel, whether there is general
| agreement to only have subdirs in /etc/? If so, I'd appreciate a pointer
| because I'd not like dput to be the last packages to switch in that case. :)

You can provide backward compatibility, say until etch is released by
providing a symlink from /etc/dput/dput.conf => /etc/dput.conf

The problem is that status quo is to put stuff right to

        /etc

and Debian policy talks about creating subdirs for packages
"more than one configuration file".

The initial /etc structure (back to 70's) did not see the raise of
multitude of packages and use of version control to keep things
organised. The problem nowadays is that /etc is in very bad shape;
likewise the $HOME/dotfile(s) which suffer from same syndrome
(difficult to back up, version control etc.)

For the devel discussion: no there hasn't been one. I suppose most of
the developers runs "single user" systems and very few use shared
version control setups, so the outcome from that discussion would
probably be "status quo is maintained".

However, I believe in progress and every bit of making /etc
more manageable would be welcomed.

If you could accomodate with this change, perhaps we can get
group power to make the move to happen.

Jari

#324715#43
Date:
2016-09-04 12:41:14 UTC
From:
To:
Control: tags -1 - wontfix

Reading the bug report thread, I find the rationale compelling enough
to warrant further consideration. As the current maintainer, I am
removing the “wontfix” conclusion on this report.

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