windows users expect the "task manager" to be in the right-click menu on
the "task bar".  in order to ease their transition and provide quick
access to a useful tool thats used relatively often, it would be nice to
have access to gnome-system-monitor in the xfce4-panel right-click menu.

thank you for your consideration.

mike

Well.. i am neither the panel-developer, nor a debian packager... but...

ARE YOU INSANE?!!!!!!!11

sorry, I lost it there... let me explain:

First of all: there is the xfce4-taskmanager (dunno if it's in the
debian repos yet)

Second:
Xfce4-panel is an xfce-core application. Adding the
gnome-system-monitor launcher to it would be a death-sin.
gnome-system-monitor depends on a lot of gnome-libs. using it with
xfce kind of beats the purpose. (Running Xfce in < 50MB of ram is
really out of the question then)

Third:
The right-click menu has a clear purpose aswell:
1) on the panel, it is for adding and removing plugins.
2) on a window-button in the taskbar, it is for performing operations
on that window (like closing it)

Conclusion:
There is absolutely no good reason to add this functionality to the panel.

I hope i made myself clear.

Regards,

Stephan.

i should have been clearer, my intent was to suggest this
functionality as an addition to the xfce panel "task bar" right-click
menu.  this would parallel the windows "task bar" right-click menu.

yes, and to excess.

later

obviously, to do this right, the task manager app would be a
configurable xfce "prefered application" defaulting to
xfce4-taskmanager if it is available.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Stephan Arts <psybsd@gmail.com>
Date: Apr 10, 2007 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#417998: xfce4-panel:
gnome-system-monitor as panel right-click entry

good

This is definitely not something for Xfce 4.4. (and if win-users want
something win-like, they should use KDE imo) However, if you think you
can convince the other xfce-developers of the need of this feature,
you could send a mail to the xfce4-dev m/l[1]. Then it becomes a
matter of discussion for Xfce 4.6.

Regards,

Stephan

[1] http://foo-projects.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce4-dev

i'm not suggesting xfce do things windows-like just to be
windows-like, but for those cases when it makes logical sense.

it is the responsibility of the debian pacakge maintainer to be the
liaison between myself, joe user, and the upstream developer.  i am
not involved in xfce development and don't care to take on the burden
of subscribing to the -dev mailing list to deal with one issue.

later,
mike

Hi

Without being completely uptodate on the issue, I understand this is
about a feature request. Now while I understand your desire to have a
single point for reporting all your debian-related issues, I hope you
will agree that it's usually not the package maintainer's job to add
new (major) features to software. Thus, even if the packager could
forward your request upstream, I would strongly suggest taking the
direct approach and reporting the request on the Xfce goodies bug
tracker or directly to the upstream developer. This will save you the
trouble of dealing with package maintainers who don't share your opinion
while allowing us to focus on what we're best at - packaging software.
Plus you will gain the advantage of dealing directly with the person
responsible for the software, somebody who knows how much works is going
to be required to implement your idea and whether it corresponds to the
Xfce philosophy instead of being stuck in ideological discussions we're
not neccessarily qualified for in the first place.

On a sort-of-related note, my experience tells me that feature requests
submitted via the debian bugtracker have a tendency to grow quite old ;)

In case my statements completely miss the point, please just ignore
them.

Regards

Windows users can add a launcher to xfce4-taskmanager if they want. I
don't see an issue here and I don't think Xfce devs plan is to make a
windows clone.

I don't see a bug here, or in any case it'll be a “wontfix”.

Cheers,

ok, i understand.  this was just an idea that i thought would help
improve usability.  but i agree, it doesn't make sense for xfce to
clone windows.

anyway, maybe a better shoulution would be to launch xfce4-taskmanager
by clicking on the system load plugin --  which is similar to clicking
on the clock plugin to bring up orage, the calendar.

reassign 417998 xfce4-systemload-plugin
severity 417998 wishlist
retitle 417998 Enable running a command when clicking on xfce4-systemload-plugin
forwarded 417998 http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3887
thanks

Yeah, agreed.
Update the bug accordingly, and forward to
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3887

Cheers,