Hi, Andrew Lee and Anthony Fok!

I use stardict, I like this dictionary very much, but there is a great
discomfort: at every new installation it is necessary to download the
dictionaries from the site http://stardict.sourceforge.net by hand and
to install them.

It would be nice if the deb-package included the dictionaries from this
site, however it is most likely impossible because mostly they will not
correspond to DFSG.

I have a proposal to you:

to modify the package thus it has configure and template scripts for
debconf, which would allow users to choose and install the dictionaries
automatically (dpkg-reconfigure).

I've written a small script (it is attached) which creates a list of
what to download and where from: according to the results of the work of
this script one may generate the menu for choosing). Some time later I
would be able to complete the work on this system [1].

However now I have to choose whether to make a fake package only for
automatisation of downloading the dictionaries for stardict or to work
further on the stardict package.

Here I need your agreement or disagreement about working on the stardict
package: in the first case you'll include the results of my work into
package and add me to the  Uploaders group and in the second one I'll
make a retitle of this bug in ITP: staridct-dicts [1].

Please inform me what is your opinion on this subject.

Sincerely yours, Dmitry

PS: notes:

[1] _example_ of staridct-dicts.deb uploaded to:
http://uvw.ru/debian/unstable/stardict/

Hi Dmitry,

Well done! I'd like to do such thing for long. But it would probably
become contrib, isn't it?

I haven't check all dictionary on stardict's website for a long time. So
I am curious now, does any dictionary on stardict website are DFSG?

Maybe convert exist dictionary in debian main to stardict format is a
better option.

AL> Well done! I'd like to do such thing for long. But it would probably
AL> become contrib, isn't it?

AL> I haven't check all dictionary on stardict's website for a long time. So
AL> I am curious now, does any dictionary on stardict website are DFSG?

AL> Maybe convert exist dictionary in debian main to stardict format is a
AL> better option.

But I haven't understood from Your answer what we are working on? Is it
a new stardict-dicts package or shall we add the scripts into starditct?

As far as contrib repository is concerned it seems to me that there's no
point to move it there (if only stardict-dicts), because the script for
downloading the dictionaries is only an additional function (which is
partly included into stardict itself).

Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:

Sorry, I have been very busy these days for organize a community event.

Please feel free to start a new package now. However you have better
idea or not, you are welcome to discuss with me. I will be available on
IRC, my nickname is AndrewLee.

By the way, there are virtual packages for stardict. You can find them
by $ zgrep stardict
/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/virtual-package-names-list.txt.gz

All the best.

On 02:51 Wed 23 Apr     , Andrew Lee wrote:
AL> Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote:

AL> Sorry, I have been very busy these days for organize a community event.

AL> Please feel free to start a new package now. However you have better
AL> idea or not, you are welcome to discuss with me. I will be available on
AL> IRC, my nickname is AndrewLee.

Unfortunately I don't know English rather well for communicating in IRC
:(

I think it would be perfect to include my scripts in the package
stardict itself and not to But if You are against it then well,
we'll make a new package.

Have You any desires or comments concerning what You've looked through?

Sorry to get back to you so late.

For my understanding, this is an utility to automatically download and
build stardict-dictdata fake packages from http://stardict.sf.net. And
these stardict-dictdata may not DFSG-free.

So I cannot include this script into stardict package, cause it would
make stardict go into contrib. I'd suggest you package this scripts
called 'stardict-package'(not staridct-dicts), and make the fake
stardict-dictdata packages all Provides on 'stardict-dictdata'. I will
make stardict suggests on 'stardict-package' in next upload.

Thanks for you great work.

Cheers,

After discussion with a real DD. There are three options:

1) Put the script into /usr/share/doc/stardict/
This way won't make stardict go into contrib.

2) Generate a stardict-nonfree package out of stardict, containing the
script and running it in postinst.
Only one binary package go into contrib and the rest would still in
main. And you can maintain the script, I can add you to the Uploaders
group if you want.

3) Create a new package.

Please make a choose. :)

Cheers,

Dear submitter,

as the package stardict has just been removed from the Debian archive
unstable we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see https://bugs.debian.org/956844

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Scott Kitterman (the ftpmaster behind the curtain)

Hi dimka,

     stardict was recently reintroduced to Debian sid.

I'm new maintainer of the stardict.

Do you use stardict now?


I just read the old bug #476909.

I also suggestion:

3) Create a new package.


The upstream stardict source code is so big and complex,

so split the download dictionaries function to one independent package
is better.

I would add the new package to Suggests: or Recommends: field in
stardict package.


regards,