* Package name : xserver-xorg-video-psb Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Intel Moblin * URL : http://www.intel.com/products/mid/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C/C++ Description : Xorg Graphics driver for Intel Poulsbo chipset (GMA 500) http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/06/msg00515.html
I originally just sent this to debian-devel since I didn't see the bug report on it, here are my comments on the bug report for posterity. I'll keep debian-devel on CC. I've attached the forwarded message at the end. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Kushal Koolwal<kushalkoolwal@hotmail.com> wrote: I only see version 0.2.1 on various websites, the upstream git repo on moblin.org no longer exists. It looks like MIT to me. Here was my original message that I sent out before I saw the bug report: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Jonathan Wiltshire<debian@jwiltshire.org.uk> wrote: Is the driver in better shape than it was in January? http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/01/30/intel-gma-500-poulsbo-graphics-on-linux-a-precise-and-comprehensive-summary-as-to-why-youre-screwed/ Ubuntu even requested to have it removed from their archive because it was obsolete and broken: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-psb/0.2.1-1ubuntu3 I'm not sure if this is something that would be wanted in the archive unless support has improved (which is a legitimate possibility, given that Dell purports to support this chipset in the Mini 12). Cheers, Daniel
Thanks Daniel! Sorry about the errors in the ITP (license, versions). I did an ITP for the first time and I wasn't quite sure how to find proper licenses and versions. Does it need to be corrected? If yes, then how? I apologize for the trouble and errors. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/----------------------------------------
As a (temporary) workaround, you can use the xorg packages out of Ubuntu's Intrepid release. They can be found in the "ppa" archive. With a bit of work, I have proper panel resolution and HDMI out working (no 3D at the moment). In order to do this, however, I need to have all of ubuntu's xorg installed on my otherwise-debian-stable system. I tried building some of these packages from source (I actually had to for the kernel module), but couldn't get a rebuilt xserver-xorg-video-psb package to work with Debian stable's Xorg. I also got nothing but lockups with Ubuntu Jaunty packages. I eventually gave up after hours of squinting at a widescreen 640x480 display, and thus I'm using ubuntu's Xorg. Needless to say, I'd love for one of the Xorg folks (or anyone who knows more about what they're doing) to step in and figure out how to at least get this stuff properly packaged. Good luck!
Hi Scott, Thank you for the valuable information. I tried searching for the ppa archive for Intrepid but was not able to find the driver package. Do you have a link from where you found that driver? So if I understand you correctly, you installed a base Debian Lenny system. And then you added the intrepid packages repo to your sources.list file and installed XOrg from intrepid? For example: # apt-get install xserver-xorg xorg Thank you. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
Kushal, I started with a Lenny install, and got it up-to-date. I then added an /etc/apt/sources.list.d/intrepid.list which includes all of intrepid and intrepid's PPA repositories:--- deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mobile/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main multiverse universe restricted deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse (plus the deb-src entries, which are not needed) --- I then used apt-pinning (man apt_preferences for more info) by setting up my /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=testing Pin-Priority: 400 Package: * Pin: release a=intrepid Pin-Priority: 400 Package: * Pin: release o=Debian,a=unstable Pin-Priority: 300 Package: * Pin: release o=Debian Pin-Priority: -1 --- This makes apt prefer debian stable when it can, but will allow debian testing, ubuntu intrepid, and debian unstable if needed. Then I installed ubuntu's packages for the chipset: libgl1-mesa-dri-psb libdrm-poulsbo1 psb-firmware psb-modules xpsb-glx xserver-xorg-video-psb The big catch was that installing xserver-xorg-video-psb required installing all of xorg from the ubuntu repositories. Thus, I have a debian lenny system, ubuntu intrepid's xorg (and some libs), and ubuntu intrepid PPA's xorg-video-psb Most of the needed packages seem to be easy enough to get moves over to debian, but what we really seem to need is xserver-xorg-video-psb to be built against debian's xorg. Also, I advise using a tool like aptitude to line up package changes; using apt straight may be a bit tedious. Good luck, Scott Gilliland
Awesome! Thank you for your time and detailed steps, Yes, it seems that if I try to install Xorg from Lenny it, it tries to remove the psb packages and vice versa. I don't know enough about Xorg system, but I am ready to spare some time to get the psb packages working in Debian. If there is some sort of similar example from the past on how to port packages from Ubuntu to Debian, I can give it a shot. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
Hi.
I was wondering if you have had any progress with the psb-driver for
X.org?
I have got the PPA packages for Jaunty from the Ubuntu Mobile Team
building on my Debian unstable netbook.
Now I just need them to a) work (I get a kernel trace (but the kernel
still runs) and X doesn't work, the console changes resolution when I
modprobe psb, though), and b) integrate properly (right now I just
overwrite libdrm2, which isn't nice, I guess libdrm-poulsbo1 needs to do
something similar to libdrm-intel1?)
If anyone has the time to answer stupid questions and guide me, I'd be
most happy to try to do the "grunt work".
Best regards,
Adam, who happened to buy a netbook without checking the graphics card.
Hi Adam, Last few days I have been trying to get the XOrg psb driver working on Lenny based on [1]. I had a partial success with it - I got the kernel drm stuff working (psb.ko and drm.ko) and I get a psb framebuffer console during the boot. However when my X server starts I get the following message: xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0×00000000, 0xdfe80000) (Cannot allocate memory) In case if you want to try the approach in [1], I can email you my steps. I think I am pretty close to get it working but I would still like to try your approach. You mentioned that you were able to get the packages compiled from PPA Jaunty source on your Debian unstable without pulling the entire Xorg from Ubuntu? Do you mind giving summary of your steps as to how you did it? I tried to build the xserver-xorg-video-psb package but I get packages dependency error as some of the packages that are require are not in unstable: *************************************************************************************************** checking for XORG... configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server>= 1.0.99.901 xproto fontsproto xf86dgaproto xineramaproto randrproto renderproto videoproto xf86miscproto xextproto) were not met: No package 'xf86dgaproto' found No package 'xineramaproto' found No package 'xf86miscproto' found Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix. Alternatively, you may set the environment variables XORG_CFLAGS and XORG_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config. See the pkg-config man page for more details. *************************************************************************************************** How did you get past this error? Did you end up downloading the missing packages from Ubuntu? Your help will be greatly appreciated. [1] http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/05/13/native-poulsbo-gma-500-graphics-driver-for-fedora-10/ Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/----------------------------------------
Yes. Put the deb-src line from the Ubuntu Mobile Team PPA page into /etc/apt/sources.list and then download the sources and build the packages. A number of adjustments need to be made for the packages to build on Debian unstable, of course. I have got X working now, but only by force-overwriting files in the libdrm2 package and deleting a libdrm.so.2.4*-file by hand, adding a symlink in /lib/ to the libdrm from the libdrm-poulsbo1 package. You can see the changes I had to make in this git-repository: * http://koldfront.dk/gitweb?p=psb;a=summary I simply started with the Ubuntu Mobile Team PPA packages for Jaunty and modified them until I could build on Debian unstable. Missing still is: * Making libdrm-poulsbo1 play nice with libdrm2 (probably need to do something similar to what the libdrm-intel1 package does?) [libdrm-poulsbo]. * Find out what the correct packages to depend on instead of linux-headers-generic and linux-generic are [psb-kernel-source]. * Check that the euid to loginuid change is correct [psb-kernel-source]. * Check how the I2C_HW_B_INTELFB define should be handled [psb-kernel-source]. The only problem I have currently with functionality is that the Synaptics touchpad on my Acer Aspire One 751H doesn't work, so I have to attach a mouse. Best regards,
So I spend a good chunk of my weekend getting up Xorg driver running. I was able to compile the packages
and install them on my Debian unstable (2.6.30-1-686) system after following Adam's instructions (thanks).
Now upon rebooting, the psb framebuffer driver kicks in and then X server tries to start but fails
with the following error messages:
debian:~# cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(EE) PSB(0): the stolenBase is:0x1f800000
(EE) PSB(0): screnIndex is:0;fbPhys is:0x1f800000; fbsize is:0x007df000
(EE) PSB(0): Could not find a valid initial configuration for this screen.
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
debian:~#
I am attaching my entire xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log file.
Adam, do you mind posting your xorg.conf file?
Kushal Koolwal
I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
I found what was causing the error. Actually it was buried inside the log file. All I had to do was to add the IgnoreACPI option in the Device section. Also note that once I installed all the packages I gave the command: X -configure cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and added the IgnoreACPI option in the xorg.conf file. Now I have Xorg running on Debian unstable with 3D working. Now only if I can figure out what additional changes needs to make it run on Debian stable. Thank you Adam for providing all the important information. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
The problem is that X isn't finding the LCD-panel, I think. Putting
Option "IgnoreACPI" "yes"
in my configuration helped. (I think I found that solution by searching
via Google.)
Sure:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Builtin Default psb Device 0"
Driver "psb"
Option "IgnoreACPI" "yes"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Builtin Default psb Screen 0"
Device "Builtin Default psb Device 0"
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Builtin Default Layout"
Screen "Builtin Default psb Screen 0"
EndSection
It would be really cool if someone with X-packaging experience would
comment on the libdrm2 vs. libdrm-poulsbo1 problem.
Best regards,
Adam
So I was able to get the Poulsbo 3D driver working on Debian Lenny (using 2.6.30 kernel), however 3D is not working because the xserver package in Lenny (and in Testing) does not have libdri2.so module and hence the *Load dri2* statement in the xorg.conf file fails. Not sure what is this new dri2 stuff. Also I am summarizing some of the hacks/overwrites that I had to do in order to get it working on Lenny. Most of them are same as from Adam's email in which he nicely points them out. Here they are anyways for Lenny: 1. Had to force-overwrite the libdrm.so.2 file while installing libdrm-poulsbo1 package 2. Had to force-overwrite the libexa.so file while installing xserver-xorg-video-psb package 3. Symlink /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2.3.0 to /lib/ 4. Comment the *Load "dri2"* line in the xorg.conf file in case if it is there. 5. You need to install the dkms package from testing in order to compile the psb-kernel-source package. Once the above steps are done, I can start my X server without any problems. I am not a Xorg expert or a DD by any chance, so I am not sure how to avoid the above steps. It would be nice if somebody can cleanly create these packages (without doing the hacks) and put them on Debian testing/sid. Thanks. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
That's a typo. Sorry about that. I meant I got Poulsbo 2D driver working on Lenny but not the 3D driver because of lack of dri2 module. Not sure what is this new dri2 stuff. If anybody knows how to generate dri2 modules in Lenny please let us know. So far I have been able to generate dri2 module only in Sid. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
If someone has time, can someone make detailed instructions on how to get this working on Unstable?
I am following the advice on this bug [2] report to setup the GMA 500 with the ppa ubuntu drivers on squeeze. See [1] for some comments, vesa driver setup, and further references. In my setup, I had X running at 1366x768 with the vesa driver, using a patched grub-pc to support the GMA500. I have taken the following steps: 1. download git head from the reference in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533450#50 and unpack 2. for each of the packages, go to the directory, run dpkg-buildsource, check the required references, install them and run dpkg-buildpackage again, and install the resulting deb package (if you install the source package, then use apt-get build-dep on each package to install its references). Some of the packages require a --force-overwrite option, as detailed in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533450#70 3. after all the packages are build, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf as outlined in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533450#65 Then I have in /usr/lib/: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33020 Sep 9 09:50 /usr/lib/libdrm.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 9 10:33 /usr/lib/libdrm.so -> libdrm.so.2.3.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Sep 9 20:23 /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 -> libdrm.so.2.4.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31992 Sep 9 09:50 /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2.3.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34580 Jul 21 10:32 /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2.4.0 Then I changed my xorg.conf from Driver "vesa" to Driver "psb" and reloaded X. It fails with the following errors: (EE) PSB(0): screnIndex is:0;fbPhys is:0x7f800000; fbsize is:0x007bf000 (EE) PSB(0): First SDVO output reported failure to sync or input is not trainded!!! Anyone seen this error, or maybe pointers/ideas to fix it? I am running kernel 2.6.30. On the bright side, the psb kernel module publishes the backlight files under /sys/class, and that allows me to adjust LCD brightness. It also gives a nice (and slow) 1366x768 console. Pedro [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-laptop@lists.debian.org/msg51520.html [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533450
I believe libdrm--poulsbo-2.3.0 from Ubuntu should be merged with libdrm-2.4.13 in Squeeze. If I understand correctly this should eliminate the libdrm2 overwrite problem. I am going to take a look at this ASAP.
I know it is not pretty but it is there....Something is better than nothing??? Here is a step-by-step guide: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/11/05/howto-compiling-intel-atom-poulsbo-gma-500-graphics-driver-on-debian/ Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
Hi, I also fell for the assumption that any intel graphic cards will come with a free chipset+driver and bought a gma500 card and thus I'm stuck with having to deal with xserver-xorg-video-psb now. And thus I want to help maintaining it in Debian... I've tried to get http://koldfront.dk/gitweb?p=psb;a=tree working on squeeze yesterday for the first time, but no real success so far... but I think that a reasoanable starting point. I'd like to work together with Adam and Kushal and, if possible, within the ressources of the Debian X team, that is, by using their git repo at git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-xorg/ - thats my rough+basic idea. I'm a DD, so I can actually upload the packages. Comments very much welcome. cheers, Holger
Hi,
I'm sorry...
... but that is great!
I've only tried on sid - but I haven't bothered trying to upgrade from
the 2.6.30 kernel yet.
What problem did you hit?
That would be great.
All I did in my repo was to hack the Ubuntu jaunty PPA-packages enough
for it to work for me, then I lost momentum.
The ugliest part (apart from the binary blobbiness), as far as I
remember, is the libdrm2 vs. libdrm-poulsbo1 thing, where both packages
provide the same files - which I haven't figured out how to fix
correctly (I simply used force-overwrite and did some symlinks by hand.)
Best regards,
Adam
Hi Holger, First of all many many thanks for taking the initiative on the PSB front. We all know that so far getting psb to work is a pain. As Adam asked, what problem are you facing? Are you able to build the psb and drm component? Couple of weeks back I wrote a step-by-step guide [1] to get psb working on Debian Squeeze. Please give a shot to these pre-built squeeze packages [2] and see if they work for you or not. I have been able to build the driver against Lenny, Squeeze and Testing. 3D did not work in Lenny because of lack of dri2 (I think) in the Lenny's XOrg version. Basically I took changes from Adam repo and added couple of more changes to get it working. For example, I had to remove the dpatch lines from debian/rules and added the relevant changes to file drm_sysfs.c directly. Also make sure that "Option Ignore ACPI 1" line is un-commented in xorg.conf. Of course there are some ugly hacks as overwriting libdrm files and some odd symlinking to get them working as Adam mentioned. All these details are captured in [1]. I would be more than happy to extend any help that you may need in creating these packages for Debian. Thanks. [1] http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/11/05/howto-compiling-intel-atom-poulsbo-gma-500-graphics-driver-on-debian/ [2] http://blogs.koolwal.net/wp-content/uploads/debian/packages/psb/xorg/ Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
Hi Adam, hi Kushal, Even through I'm trying to run squeeze, I'm happy and able to give anything from unstable or experimental (or other sources) a try. Probably I will also just switch to unstable on this machine, until we've made it work... [ 1685.642108] [drm] Module unloaded [ 1692.468985] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810 [ 1692.524152] psb 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 [ 1692.524181] psb 0000:00:02.0: setting latency timer to 64 [ 1692.524311] [drm] psb - 5.0.1.0046 [ 1692.548102] [drm:psb_do_init] *ERROR* Debug is 0x00000000 [ 1692.590187] psb 0000:00:02.0: firmware: requesting msvdx_fw.bin [ 1692.630565] [drm:psb_do_init] *ERROR* Gatt must be 256M aligned. This is a bug. [ 1692.630734] set the msvdx clock to 0 in the psb_msvdx_uninit [ 1692.661250] DRM: fill_in_dev failed [ 1692.661387] psb 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A disabled [ 1692.661412] DRM: drm_get_dev failed. [ 1692.661563] psb: probe of 0000:00:02.0 failed with error -22 This is my device: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller [8086:8108] (rev 07) debian/control file, but I'm not sure this is the right solution here... psb-kernel-source-4.41.1 only builds a root, as it writes to /usr/src atm... that's also quite ugly :-) I followed your guide (thanks!), I think I've missed http://blogs.koolwal.net/wp-content/uploads/debian/psb-kernel-source-modified-files.tar though :) Those packages also dont work for me on squeeze... they fail exactly the same. Xorg.0.log ends with: drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID PCI:0:2:0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card1 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card2 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card3 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card4 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card5 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card6 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card7 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card8 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card9 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card10 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card11 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card12 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card13 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card14 drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card1 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card2 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card3 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card4 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card5 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card6 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card7 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card8 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card9 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card10 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card11 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card12 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card13 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card14 (EE) [drm] drmOpen failed. (EE) PSB(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI. (EE) [drm] Could not uninstall irq handler. (EE) PSB(0): This driver currently needs DRM to operate. Any ideas? regards, Holger
It's not an acceptable solution. Why do you need this? If psb needs its own libdrm it can call it libdrm_poulsbo.so or whatever, it doesn't have to steal the name of the standard one. [...] Start by getting the kernel part working. You won't get X up before then. Cheers, Julien
Holger, What kernel version are you using on Squeeze? The packages that I pointed you should work on 2.6.30 kernel on Squeeze. As Julien suggested first get the kernel component working. Try the following to get the kernel component working: # apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 ; Just to make sure if you have the default kernel installed. and then install the following package: http://blogs.koolwal.net/wp-content/uploads/debian/packages/psb/xorg/psb-modules_4.41.1-1squeeze1_i386.deb # dpkg -i psb-modules_4.41.1-1squeeze1_i386.deb This will install modules in the default kernel: debian-tablet:/home/kushalk# ls /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-686/updates/char/drm/ drm.ko psb.ko and then do the following: # cd /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-686/updates/char/drm # cp psb.ko drm.ko ../../../kernel/drivers/gpu/ # rm -rf ../../../kernel/driver/gpu/drm/ # depmod -ae and then reboot and check your dmesg. The above worked for me on a 2.6.30-2-686 kernel. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
Hi, 2.6.30-2 yup Same. But as said in my previous mail, I've ommitted some patching you did.. will try that later, but not sure if I find the time today... cheers, Holger
If you are just installing from the pre-compiled packages you don't need modifications. Those packages should have everything that you need to get GMA working (I think). I would be interested to know about your results. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
Hi, they dont work for me :( strangely I have the same problem with http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/updates/11/SRPMS/psb-kmod-4.41.1-10.fc11.3.src.rpm (build with dkms on debian) installed on 2.6.31-1 from debian sid... Will continue to investigate... regards, Holger btw: feel free to add your feed to http://wiki.debian-community.org/planets/en/feeds/ :-)
Hi, I had some sort of success building and running psb on 2.6.31 and 2.6.32. There are a few caveats: 1. I have to run the kernel with mem=1500MB (I read that 500MB and 1000MB are working too) otherwise X won't load. I also load psb with ignore_acpi=1 2. I had to override libdrm2's shared objects with psb's provided one: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37806 Dec 6 21:45 /usr/lib/libdrm_poulsbo.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 6 21:47 /usr/lib/libdrm_poulsbo.so -> libdrm_poulsbo.so.2.3.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 6 21:47 /usr/lib/libdrm_poulsbo.so.2 -> libdrm_poulsbo.so.2.3.0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35852 Dec 6 21:45 /usr/lib/libdrm_poulsbo.so.2.3.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 7 21:40 /usr/lib/libdrm.so.2 -> libdrm_poulsbo.so.2.3.0 3. I had to add loading of the kernel module to rc.local (rather than /etc/modules) and move the startup links of gdm after that (S24 suffices). Overall, the status is quite sad: forget about s2ram, the X driver won't probably work on xorg 1.7 and the machine in general is not very stable. I have packages[1] built against squeeze and kernel 2.6.31 here[2] you should be able to rebuild them after installing the dependencies or you can just install the deb files[3]. Something I'm really annoyed about is that I couldn't find source files other than the ones from ubuntu or fedora. Notes: [1]: the quality of the packages is pretty low, not even close to anything that can be considered for upload. I took the ubuntu packages and re-worked them a bit (to use quilt, additional patches, moved libdrm to libdrm_poulsbo, etc.). Anyway, good enough for now and it's probably not the case to have any of these packages in Debian. [2]: http://kamineko.org/debian [3]: note that you will have either to tweak the libdrm_poulsbo package to divert the libdrm.so.2 link or create the link yourself. I may add it at some point._poulsbo, etc.). Anyway, good enough for now and it's probably not the case to have any of these packages in Debian.
Hi, unfortunatly the psb xorg driver doesnt work with my poulsbo chipset, I always get the errors as described in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=533450#115 - I've tried the mandrake 2010 live-cd yesterday and exactly the same problem. The only way I could get the graphic card to work with performance is with the even less free iegd driver from intel, so this is what I will be using in the near future, while I'm waiting for a newer (and working for me) version of the psb driver. And until this is there, I dont have interest in packaging psb, sorry. If someone comes up with suitable packages for Debian sid, I'd be willing to sponsor them, though. cheers, Holger
mattia@ludwig:~/devel> lspci -n -s 00:02.0 00:02.0 0300: 8086:8108 (rev 06) did you actually try all the tricks I described previously? Specifically I noticed that the mem= command line parameter and loading psb.ko late enough in the boot sequence help a lot. Oh wait, you have rev 07... not sure what the difference is. This is quite interesting actually. If nothing else because *maybe* this other driver works better than psb on my laptop. Also, I read on the IEGD website that there should be a kernel patch somewhere. I'm now digging around the intel website to see if I can find anything useful -- the only "driver" I was able to download so far contains some sort of exe (archive?). No worries, I could upload them myself if I was any convinced it was a good idea. The 3D driver has no chance of working with any current libdrm implementation and even currently video playback is so bad that it's just useless. Anyway, I reworked the packages even more and now at least the packaging situation is less sad: - libdrm-psb doesn't need to conflict or replace libdrm anymore, the psb xorg driver picks it up, much like the intel driver does. - almost lintian clean, no big errors except for the kernel driver but those seem false positives. - all packges are 3.0 (quilt)... just for fun. On the negative side the kernel module packaging is still crappy but to be honest I can't be bothered making it any better for now. I have all my stuff here with a little explanation in case you want to give it another go: http://www.kamineko.org/debian-psb/ Thanks
After talking to the Intel graphics guys, it's pretty clear to me the current driver is a dead-end. They essentially said it would be impossible to integrate into any modern X/DRI system. However, it looks as if a new one is on the way: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzg2MA If you click through the links you'll find stories about not just the binary 3D driver but a new open-source 2D one as well. I think it would be more productive to work on packaging these as the current package is preventing me from upgrading X. That said, I very much appreciate having a fairly functional netbook thanks to all of you!
Hi Mattia, I think either there are sub revisions not "labeled" as such, or that other parts also play a role. I guess so. I've tried several mem= params and I've also tried the mandrake 2010 cd as well as jolicloud, which both work for other poulsbo users. I've seen other people with rev 07 and working. I'm quite sure it does now or the new version (there were some demos last year) will. Yes. Run it in wine, to extract that archive. Inside there are files for linux too. Well, that would go to non-free anyway and I think gma500 support would be great to have for squeeze! according to http://building.jolicloud.com/2009/11/17/the-quest-for-implementing-support-for-the-gma500-chipset/ the libdrm problems have been fixed (there too), havent looked at those sources yet, though. nice. I'm not sure, maybe. Are those for squeeze or lenny? cheers, Holger
... Thanks, I did that in the end and managed to get the Linux blobs out of it. I gave it a go and unfortunately the iegd kernel driver is not compatible with 2.6.32 which I'm currently using, I'll try to see if I can make it work and remove all the dependencies with drm functions that have been removed from the upstream kernel. Not all packages are non-free, the xorg driver, libdrm-psb and libva are gplv2 or MIT so these are good to go to main. The kernel driver too. The remaining ones are the firmware package and the 3D stack which come in binary only form. My skepticism comes from the fact that I'm not sure having not-so-good packages for squeeze is better than having them outside the release. You can run Vesa to get X up and working and then you can install whatever better suits your needs. I understand that it's extra work but I can't figure out how reliably one could run the psb stack in debian... Cool, I quickly skim over the article and some of my points above are actually addressed. I'll have a better look at it tomorrow. err... they are more likely to work in squeeze. I'd recommend building your own, you shouldn't have that many problems provided that you have the build-dep installed and follow the right order. I haven't payed too much attention to the binary packages, I was more interested in getting proper source packages first. Let's see, thanks for the pointers.
yeah... noticed that. if you're talking about the IEGD driver, that's far less open source than the psb one. If nothing else it seems that development from Intel is much more active. It also seems quite tricky to set up but I'm trying it out, I might be able to get something working next week. you'll have other hard dependencies with IEGD too. Cheers to you
Got a few updates. A couple of issues: - the brightness is halved on starting X and I can't find any way to increase/decrease it. - I can't seem to get any configuration option to work, how lovely is the Inf format... - the X driver (iegd_drv) doesn't work with xserver 1.7 and there's no chance to patch it, we have to wait for Intel to release a new version. ... Not sure I got their point but it seems that the only additional work they did was to rename all the psb drm kernel symbols to allow keeping the upstream kernel drm module _and_ the one shipped with the psb package. I can't see this as a particularly useful feature. I tried porting psb_drv to xserver 1.7 and I got some success but the 3D libraries (the binary ones) require a pile of old symbols not provided anymore by the server. For some reason the psb driver is not very happy without the 3D libraries, I haven't figured out why but I didn't spend much time there. All in all a big failure. I only hope that the iegd driver (that is the only one showing some activity) will be updated and released with the full sources soon. sigh...
My experience with iegd driver was exactly opposite with Debian Lenny. It won't compile in the first place. May be I was using an older version of iegd driver? However the psb sources from Ubuntu Jaunty always worked for me on Lenny, Squeeze and Unstable with 3D working on Squeeze and Unstable. A very disappointing scenario for Linux users. Kushal Koolwal I do blog at http://blogs.koolwal.net/
I was going through the license to see if those binary files are redistributable, it looks like they aren't. " LICENSE. You may copy the Software onto a single computer for your personal, noncommercial use, and you may make one back-up copy of the Software, subject to these conditions: 1. This Software is licensed for use only in conjunction with Intel component products. Use of the Software in conjunction with non-Intel component products is not licensed hereunder. 2. You may not copy, modify, rent, sell, distribute or transfer any part of the Software except as provided in this Agreement, and you agree to prevent unauthorized copying of the Software. [...] " I could come up with a package for the kernel module next weekend instead. psb is more or less fine here too. also with the new xorg 1.7? What does X -version say? Thanks
Hi Mattia, Wouldnt that make the free stuff need to go into contrib, as they are hardly of any use without the nonfree stuff? As long as it cannot be done reliable I agree it shouldnt be in Debian. But if its possible to have it outside the release, I think it should be possible to do inside too :-) (If you count "nonfree" as inside.) Cool!! I'll attach an xorg.conf that works for me. It's derived from the one from the moblin IVI live image Yeah, my current plan is to use 2.6.32 on lenny with xorg from lenny until Intel releases a driver for xserver 1.7 It's nice if you want to install one set of packages on a wide range of hardware, like you do for LTSP clients. As much as I wish that too, I dont have that much hope. Intel doesnt own the rights to be able to do that (of course, they could and IMO should buy those rights) and I dont think they have much interest in that, as their main target for this kind of hardware seem to be hardware vendors, not end users. They didnt forsee and dont seem to care that some of those hardware vendors to sell the hardware in appliances but in devices end users like to fiddle with. (think car entertainment systems vs. netbooks.) My only hope is that someone at Intel realises that the costs for freeing these drivers might actually be lower than the costs of loosing the reputation that Intel is producing hardware with good free software support. This reputation has suffered and will suffer more if this continues. cheers, Holger
have some questions about deprecated symbols in recent versions of Xorg.
Thanks to everyone involved for your work so far; it's definitely been a
good starting point for me. From Mattia Dongili's packages I've built
and installed the kernel module, libdrm, and libva. After loading the
psb module, the console resolution increases and I found the backlight
API in sysfs. And for anyone interested, I threw together this one-liner
in PHP to (anything but seamlessly) cycle the brightness on a sine
curve, haha:
$ php -r '$fp = fopen("/sys/class/backlight/psblvds/brightness",
\ "w"); while (true) { $v = round(sin(time()) * 40 + 70); fwrite($fp,
\ $v); usleep(500); } fclose($fp);'
(The line is rather long, so the backslashes indicate line breaks due to
wrapping.)
However, the Xorg display driver (xserver-xorg-video-psb) is what I'm
working on now. In its unmodified form, it won't run in (or even build
against) Xorg 1.7 because of the removal of numerous deprecated features
and symbols (like the resources/RAC API and the XFree86 loader). I've
patched the driver enough to build on a Debian testing (Squeeze) system,
and I know basically what needs to be done to get the driver loaded into
Xorg.
This leads me to my questions for the Debian X team. Attached is the
file src/psb_driver.c from xserver-xorg-video-psb version 0.36.0 (from
an orig.tar.gz from the gma500 PPA on Launchpad, as I have yet to find
upstream development for this stuff). After I patch it to build against
Xorg 1.7, psb_drv.so loads, but Xorg exits with the error:
Xorg: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/psb_drv.so:
\ undefined symbol: LoaderRefSymLists
With research I found that this is due to the removal of the XFree86
loader and all of its long deprecated symbols. I'm currently working on
a patch to remove all references to this and a similar deprecated
symbol, along with hopefully some now useless symbol lists (see line 159
and below). Note however the use of the "XFree86LOADER" macro in the
middle of those symbol lists; what is the purpose of this? Is it to
identify newer versions of Xorg? Is it deprecated and to be removed?
This is an issue because it is used to conditionally compile some code
(including the psbSetup function, which I know is used by Xorg)
following the symbols I'd like to conditionally compile (or simply
patch) out of the driver. What would be the best way to proceed here?
Should I leave in or remove the XFree86LOADER macro check? Should I
simply patch out the old symbol lists completely (possibly breaking the
driver for older Xorg versions) or conditionally compile out the symbol
lists? If the latter, is the ABI version number in the following check
correct?
#if GET_ABI_MAJOR(ABI_VIDEODRV_VERSION) < 5
If anyone would like any more information -- Xorg logs, configuration,
the patches I wrote, etc. -- let me know. When and if I get this driver
working, I'll clean it up a bit and eventually post source and binary
packages somewhere.
As David Greene mentioned, perhaps libdrm-poulsbo could be merged with
Debian's native libdrm package in the long run. And the rest of the
packages could probably be uploaded to the Debian archives after some
lintian-silencing cleanups and build-dependency fixes.
Thanks,
P. J. McDermott
You can probably just remove this stuff (I doubt the psb driver will work or even build against an xserver which requires it), that's what we did in the radeon driver, which tends to be backwards compatible more than most other free drivers.
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 05:25:17PM -0500, P. J. McDermott wrote: ... I doubt there is any upstream development at all. Those git repositories I have linked on my website were cloned from a Mobilin repository where the psb driver was relegated to an "obsolete" subdirectory. Now with Meego all development seems to be focused towards the EMGD driver instead. The kernel part has sources available, the userspace part is mostly binary blobs afaics. To be honest I gave up trying to make psb work as anyway it needs the 3D blob to work on the laptop I have and there is no way whatsoever that that will load on any recent Xorg version.
Okay thanks, I'll do that then. I assume you meant remove the
XFree86LOADER macro (which I've read may be on its way out of Xorg)
check as well.
Yeah, I saw that on the Moblin repository. Eventually I'll contact the
gma500 team on Launchpad about it, as they seem to be getting (albeit
rather stale) updates from somewhere... I'm more focused on just getting
this to work for now though.
I know Intel is pushing IEGD or EMGD or whatever new set of
mixed-license drivers they're adding to the fray, but no one seems to
have much faith in those efforts (and it sounds like they're even less
free). And apparently maintainers have gotten the existing drivers
working with Xorg 1.{7,8,9} in at least Ubuntu, Fedora, Mandriva, and
Arch Linux. As you said, there may be problems getting the binary Xpsb
GLX sub-module to load in Xorg >= 1.7, but it appears that people have
made it work (or are at least packaging it for their distributions
regardless). Though personally I'd be happy just with framebuffer-less
rendering and backlight control, just to save my battery.
Also, xserver-xorg-video-psb *shouldn't* need the firmware or Xpsb
binaries. I noticed that it does probe for the Xpsb sub-module, but when
it doesn't find it it'll continue on without it and let you know that 3D
and video acceleration won't work. The metapackages on the gma500 PPA
seem to verify this, letting users install only the free drivers to at
least get 2D acceleration. A commenter on the blog of Adam Williamson
(who's gotten these drivers working in Fedora) also reported success
with only the free drivers. I haven't gotten to the point to be able to
try this myself though, and I'm not sure what specific requirements your
system might have to require Xpsb.
I'm slowly getting xserver-xorg-video-psb to load in Xorg 1.7, and I'm
tweaking a configuration file to work around issues like the
LVDS-connected monitor of my Acer Aspire One AO751h not being detected
with ACPI. But Xorg is now aborting on a segmentation fault "at address
(nil)" and I can't seem to get debugging symbols in the backtrace. The
fault is probably caused by a mangled pointer bug that's fixed by some
patch that I haven't applied to my driver. I'll probably install drivers
from the gma500 PPA on a test installation of Squeeze to see that
everything works. If it does, then I can start from scratch and be less
conservative in my patchwork, referring to the work in other
distributions to fix any bugs there may be.
Thanks,
P. J.
The glibc backtracer is almost useless, try starting the X server in gdb (from a remote shell).
PowerVR interview about linux driver at end of this year: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODk4Ng
its for ubuntu, from their website https://launchpad.net/emgd faq: https://answers.launchpad.net/emgd/+faq/1450 "Intel EMGD drivers 1.5.x (Jan 2011) Compatibility: * Maverick (driver release 1.5.2 - kernel 2.6.35 and xorg 1.9) * Natty (driver release 1.5.2 - kernel 2.6.38 and xorg 1.9) * Lucid (old driver release 1.5 - kernel 2.6.32 and xorg 1.8.x backported from xorg-edgers) (...) Working features: * 2D * 3D * Xv videoplayback (totem, skype, cheese..) * Vaapi videoplayback * Compiz, Unity-2D" In their repo they have only few packages: emgd-dkms (Intel emgd driver in DKMS format.) emgdui (Intel EMGD drivers GUI ) xorg-emgd (X11 drivers for Poulsbo (psb) 3D acceleration) plus: libva and mplayer-vaapi Maybe somebody could port it for debian? greets
http://wiki.debian.org/IntelEmbeddedMediaGraphicsDriver i'm going to try it now
those ubuntu packages you pointed at first work for me (using sid Xorg). Actually I modified them a bit as they have some fundamental issues, I'll post the changes somewhere eventually. I can happily suspend and resume and the whole experience of using my Vaio X is getting slowly (too slowly) better. I haven't tried building mplayer with vaapi support.
i followed the instructions on http://wiki.debian.org/IntelEmbeddedMediaGraphicsDriver and now!, success! just had to do another dirty hack, not explained on the page. i'm going to explain it later, but maybe the hack is not necessary for other squeeze users! didn't try 3d yet, but i'm able to watch videos now!, wow...
And here comes another one: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/2/22/183 Let's see how it goes.
I was about to write a long post on how to get the Poulsbo driver working (with 3D) on Debian Squeeze using the native sources (non EMGD) but I guess I will hold on to that (for now) since the kernel component is in the staging trees. I guess once those are stabilized in the kernel, we should be able to do a xserver-xorg-video-psb package for Debian which was the original intend for this bug report over 20 months ago -:) Thanks for posting the LKML link, Mattia!
How is that going? Is the kernel component stabilised now? This bug is still open, and with modern desktop environments such as GNOME 3, the lack of 3D with gma500 chipsets is becoming a problem. Also, meanwhile, any workaround to achieve than (you mentionned it's possible) is welcome. Regards.
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