#584200 impossible to override offline mode when using network-manager

Package:
evolution
Source:
evolution
Description:
groupware suite with mail client and organizer
Submitter:
Heikki Kantola
Date:
2025-08-17 17:47:23 UTC
Severity:
important
Tags:
#584200#5
Date:
2010-06-02 08:17:57 UTC
From:
To:
Since the update to the latest Evolution version, I have been unable
to use it as a proper mail client since it doesn't seem to be able to
stay online. When I start the program, it seems to be connected and
asks the password for the one IMAP account, which doesn't have the
password set in the preferences. But right after that, Evolution goes
offline and doesn't even allow to manually go online.
Apart from the dummy default account set only for sending mail, the
mail accounts use IMAP and the physical network connection works fine
with every other application so that should not be the problem.

#584200#10
Date:
2010-06-02 18:34:42 UTC
From:
To:
I guess you weren't able to check existing bug reports (like #553383) or
documentation? Evolution uses network-manager if available to establish
online status. If your setup isn't working, then no online mode is
available. So either you fix your setup (I don't know how, I don't use
NM, but bug report mentionned above has stuff about managed=false or
something), or your completely remove network-manager.

Cheers,

#584200#15
Date:
2010-06-27 12:22:14 UTC
From:
To:
retitle 582358 impossible to override offline mode when using network-manager
forcemerge 582358 584200 587302
thanks

Doesn't this sound like #584200 or #582358?

Now, like for all the other bug reports, I don't have network-manager
(and I'm not interested in it), so I can't test. Maybe there's a bug and
people should be able to override the offline mode even when using
network-manager (though imho the whole point of NM is to give it your
network keys and let it do what it want, if you don't like it, don't use
it at all). But I have no way to check, so your best bet is to open the
bug *upstream* (there's now a text asking for that when using
reportbug), so you can explain exactly the wanted behavior and argue
with them (check before if there's no upstream issue already opened,
though)

Regards,

#584200#20
Date:
2010-06-27 12:22:14 UTC
From:
To:
retitle 582358 impossible to override offline mode when using network-manager
forcemerge 582358 584200 587302
thanks

Doesn't this sound like #584200 or #582358?

Now, like for all the other bug reports, I don't have network-manager
(and I'm not interested in it), so I can't test. Maybe there's a bug and
people should be able to override the offline mode even when using
network-manager (though imho the whole point of NM is to give it your
network keys and let it do what it want, if you don't like it, don't use
it at all). But I have no way to check, so your best bet is to open the
bug *upstream* (there's now a text asking for that when using
reportbug), so you can explain exactly the wanted behavior and argue
with them (check before if there's no upstream issue already opened,
though)

Regards,

#584200#27
Date:
2010-06-27 14:11:55 UTC
From:
To:
Le 27/06/2010 14:22, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit :

Sorry, you're right.
offline mode.
However:
- Evo should look at interfaces not managed by NM;
- the user must be able to change this descision.
system may have several interfaces, some are managed by NM, other not.

Thank you.

Regards

#584200#30
Date:
2010-06-27 14:11:55 UTC
From:
To:
Le 27/06/2010 14:22, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit :

Sorry, you're right.
offline mode.
However:
- Evo should look at interfaces not managed by NM;
- the user must be able to change this descision.
system may have several interfaces, some are managed by NM, other not.

Thank you.

Regards

#584200#45
Date:
2010-08-29 19:05:20 UTC
From:
To:
This is an FYI for anyone else who slams into this bug like I did just now :P

Evolution not working when NetworkManager *is* working - then either
disable /etc/init.d/network-manager or remove it (like I did...)

To purge and not use network-manager (at least until the powers that
be figure out which interface is the correct one.)

Do this and reboot:
apt-get purge network-manager
(if that gives and error about /etc/networkManager not being empty, then do -
tar zcvf /root/buNetworkManager.tgz  && rm -fR /etc/NetworkManager
... that should finish it off...)

Next, purge any unused dependencies -

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get autoclean
apt-get autoremove
apt-get clean all

Cheers!
-Sx-