it's more convenient for current use

severity 648394 wishlist
tags 648394 + wontfix
thanks

Am 11.11.2011 03:53, schrieb gpe92:

dynamic workspaces are an integral feature of the new gnome-shell, so
this is not going to change.

If you can't get used to the new behaviour, you can either use the
fallback mode or one of the existing extensions [1], which allow you to
setup static workspaces. Please note though, that installing such
extensions happens at your own risk.

Cheers,
Michael

[¹] http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html

Le -10/01/-28163 20:59, Michael Biebl a écrit :

Hi,

I think this bug can be merged with 648393 as this is to allow the
choice to have a different behavior for workspaces. This is not to want
to change the default behavior, the dynamic workspaces.

Should be able to choose to keep static workspace, an alt-tab limited to
a workspace, recording of the session with the number of workspace and
applications that are in a particular workspace.

The requirement to use extensions for this basic behavior is annoying,
these parameters should be included in the Gnome mainline.

The use of extensions to create classes of users, those who know that
extensions exist and those who are not geek enough to test several
extensions before finding the right one. And there are those in business
or in schools that can not install extensions, which can only change the
setting.

Extensions must follow the speed of development of Gnome. It's
embarrassing for a behavior as basic to the management of workspaces, it
touches on how to work with the computer. Static workspaces is used in
business, and is a way of working.

There are many flamewwre on changes in behavior, the use of extensions
does not calm the flamewar. By providing the default installation with
the choice of behavior, no one has twists.

Extensions are not visibility. If you asked someone which desktop he
uses, he will answer Gnome, KDE, Xfce, but no such desktop and such
extensions. The choice by the developers of dynamic workspaces will be
the right choice visible to all. Although many people use extensions.


Regards.

I agree fully with the author of this bug. Static workspaces, quick
launch buttons, applets etc. as one used to have in the Gnome 2 panel
should in my oppinion be supported by default before the Gnome 3 desktop
can move on to Stable release.

The standard reply that it will not be supported because of a religious
kind of desktop philosophy that must be adhered to according to the
Gnome authors, will in my opinion not work for many people who are used
to years of Gnome 2 with an in my opinion very well working panel and
desktop philosophy attached.

To add my whishlist then:
- ability to move stuff around in the top panel bar.
- ability to remove stuff from the top panel bar.
- ability to add things like a desktop switcher applet and window list
applet (these do not have to be applets but I liked the functionality)
- ability to run one's own WM (always had sawfish with the handy close
button on the left of the window)

I think I will get used to the visual "bling bling" of the new thing but
the basic behaviour of Gnome 2 should be there and relatively easily to
access (or even copied from one's Gnome 2 configuration?)

off topic:
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The reason I reply to this, after an unheeded update of Testing my
desktop looks and feels very different to what I was used to the last
approx. >6 years. This has taken now already three afternoons of my
valuable (fortuanately holiday) time to sort out that there is no choice
to change the behaviour as far as the Gnome team is concerned.
Very disappointing because Gnome was actually the first properly working
and easily configurable desktop environment that I encountered on Linux
and I have stuck to it almost from the beginning (just as the Debian
distro, good work!).

yours,


Tjeerd Pinkert

Le samedi 24 décembre 2011 à 05:22 +0100, Tjeerd Pinkert a écrit :

Quick launch buttons are already here, it’s the dock. And you can write
your own extensions, that can do more than applets.

This is precisely why we kept the panel and metacity, available with the
“GNOME Classic” session.

If you want that, use the panel. At least in Debian, it’s here to stay.

Cheers,