- Package:
- dovecot-imapd
- Source:
- dovecot
- Description:
- secure POP3/IMAP server - IMAP daemon
- Submitter:
- David Baron
- Date:
- 2014-07-15 20:00:08 UTC
- Severity:
- normal
--- Please enter the report below this line. --- Filed against kmail as well but more like dovecot problem. When messages are deleted or moved off the inbox, a gray-out version remains on the inbox. The server (local computer) /var/mail/usersmail simply grows and grows. Debian Release: jessie/sid 500 unstable ftp.us.debian.org 500 testing ftp.us.debian.org 500 sid linux.dropbox.com --- Package information. --- Depends (Version) | Installed =========================================-+-========================= dovecot-core (= 1:2.2.13-2) | 1:2.2.13-2 libbz2-1.0 | 1.0.6-5 libc6 (>= 2.4) | 2.19-5 liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614) | 5.1.1alpha+20120614-2 zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) | 1:1.2.8.dfsg-1 ucf (>= 2.0020) | 3.0030 Package Status (Version) | Installed ===================================-+-=========== dovecot-common | dovecot-core | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-dbg | dovecot-dev | dovecot-gssapi | dovecot-imapd | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-ldap | dovecot-lmtpd | dovecot-managesieved | dovecot-mysql | dovecot-pgsql | dovecot-pop3d | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-sieve | dovecot-sqlite | Package's Recommends field is empty. Package's Suggests field is empty.--- Output from package bug script ---
severity 754389 normal tags 754389 +moreinfo thanks The way IMAP works, you mark messages for deletion and the server then actually removes them when the client issues an EXPUNGE request. Is kmail issuing an EXPUNGE request? See e.g. https://kb.wisc.edu/cae/page.php?id=16718 for a more detailed explanation, and http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501#section-6.4.3 for the documentation of the EXPUNGE command in the RFC. Cheers, Jelmer
Good question! The option is certainly checked in the IMAP account configuration in Kmail! I will note this in the bug filed against Kmail.
Good question! The option is certainly checked in the IMAP account configuration in Kmail! I will note this in the bug filed against Kmail.
Which option is that? I just read your original message again. Graying out of messages usually means they have been marked as deleted but not expunged. I'm inclined to close this bug report, unless it turns out dovecot is ignoring EXPUNGE requests. Cheers, Jelmer
Which option is that? I just read your original message again. Graying out of messages usually means they have been marked as deleted but not expunged. I'm inclined to close this bug report, unless it turns out dovecot is ignoring EXPUNGE requests. Cheers, Jelmer
--- Please enter the report below this line. --- Using Kmail on dovecot imap and gmail. Gmail functions normally. So if this gets an expunge request from kmail, then dovecot should also be getting it? Debian Release: jessie/sid 500 unstable ftp.us.debian.org 500 testing ftp.us.debian.org 500 sid linux.dropbox.com --- Package information. --- Depends (Version) | Installed =========================================-+-========================= dovecot-core (= 1:2.2.13-2) | 1:2.2.13-2 libbz2-1.0 | 1.0.6-5 libc6 (>= 2.4) | 2.19-5 liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614) | 5.1.1alpha+20120614-2 zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) | 1:1.2.8.dfsg-1 ucf (>= 2.0020) | 3.0030 Package Status (Version) | Installed ===================================-+-=========== dovecot-common | dovecot-core | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-dbg | dovecot-dev | dovecot-gssapi | dovecot-imapd | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-ldap | dovecot-lmtpd | dovecot-managesieved | dovecot-mysql | dovecot-pgsql | dovecot-pop3d | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-sieve | dovecot-sqlite | Package's Recommends field is empty. Package's Suggests field is empty.--- Output from package bug script ---
--- Please enter the report below this line. --- Saw no changes from this, either on phone (ghosts were not shown) or on kmail. Debian Release: jessie/sid 500 unstable ftp.us.debian.org 500 testing ftp.us.debian.org 500 sid linux.dropbox.com --- Package information. --- Depends (Version) | Installed =========================================-+-========================= dovecot-core (= 1:2.2.13-2) | 1:2.2.13-2 libbz2-1.0 | 1.0.6-5 libc6 (>= 2.4) | 2.19-6 liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614) | 5.1.1alpha+20120614-2 zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) | 1:1.2.8.dfsg-1 ucf (>= 2.0020) | 3.0030 Package Status (Version) | Installed ===================================-+-=========== dovecot-common | dovecot-core | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-dbg | dovecot-dev | dovecot-gssapi | dovecot-imapd | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-ldap | dovecot-lmtpd | dovecot-managesieved | dovecot-mysql | dovecot-pgsql | dovecot-pop3d | 1:2.2.13-2 dovecot-sieve | dovecot-sqlite | Package's Recommends field is empty. Package's Suggests field is empty.
GMail is a special kind of IMAP server, which IIRC auto-expunges. When you say you no longer see any "ghosts", do you mean messages you marked for deletion were actually deleted on expunge? I'm not sure I follow what you were saying in your last message. Jelmer
I am still seeing them. I am currently trying that workaround from the other, a time-delayed more to a local folder. Unfortunately, the ghosts get moved as well. In that case though, the imap may now be "clean."
Which other? Do you see any bodies of these greyed out messages? This Kmail FAQ might be related: https://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#You_have_empty_.27ghost-mails.27_in_your_inbox_.28or_other_folder.29 Cheers, Jelmer
I have ghosts in folder to which mail gets filtered. The ghosts get moved as well! This is dated. Older kmail. I really do need some means of get rid of the ghosts because they clutter things up and yes, multiply. Filtered, comes again, refiltered, ad nauseum. The only way now to clean the inbox is to revove the /var/mail/username file, then delete the inbox which will be regenerated. The /var/mail file will be recreated when mail comes in. No way to delete "local" folders :-( Local inbox has loads of ghosts. Moving legit messages, removing "mail" folder, making it anew, editing filters going to it, replacing the messages, this is a bum procedure which is hardly worth it until a particular folder is really loaded. Can dovecot be setup to auto-expunge like gmail?
This is the local mailbox, not over IMAP? Cheers, Jelmer
See http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2008-June/031655.html Can you try removing messages using another client, like mutt - and forcing expunge using mutt (IIRC this can be done using the $ key). Cheers, Jelmer