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hy guys
I was updating from wheezy to jessie.
I reboot
I connect an externel USB3 HDD 2 TB
in a root shell:
df
mount /media/sdb1 is not possible
umount /media/sdb1 is not possible only by disk-manager
kate /etc/fstab changes can't solve the problem:
mount: can't find /media/sdb1 in /etc/fstab
I can't umount /media/sdb1 or mount -n -o remount,rw /media/sdb1 or
chmod --recursive ug+r * or write on a externel USB HDD. I can only
mount over disk-manager or ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-6.fc20.x86_64.rpm after
alien -d
The ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-6.fc20.x86_64.rpm is from fedora 20
with the original ntfs-3g from the debian jessie repository is nothing
possible.
I have no chances to becomes the access rights on the externel hdd with
chmod or krusader/root or mc
but I need the externel HDD for Backups
cheers Ralph
Package: ntfs-3g
Version: 2013.1.13-7
Severity: important
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hy guys
I was updating from wheezy to jessie.
I reboot
I connect an externel USB3 HDD 2 TB
in a root shell:
df
mount /media/sdb1 is not possible
umount /media/sdb1 is not possible only by disk-manager
kate /etc/fstab changes can't solve the problem:
mount: can't find /media/sdb1 in /etc/fstab
I can't umount /media/sdb1 or mount -n -o remount,rw /media/sdb1 or
chmod --recursive ug+r * or write on a externel USB HDD. I can only
mount over disk-manager or ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-6.fc20.x86_64.rpm after
alien -d
The ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-6.fc20.x86_64.rpm is from fedora 20
with the original ntfs-3g from the debian jessie repository is nothing
possible.
I have no chances to becomes the access rights on the externel hdd with
chmod or krusader/root or mc
but I need the externel HDD for Backups
cheers Ralph
Package: ntfs-3g
Version: 2013.1.13-7
Severity: important
Dear Maintainer,
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Please tell what happens. There must be an error message. Also what is your exact mount command and what is configured in /etc/fstab. If nothing is configured in /etc/fstab, the mount command should have at least two arguments : the address of the device (/dev/something) and the mount point (an existing void directory). If you can unmount through disk-manager, then your device was mounted, and you cannot mount it again. After you plug in the device, before doing anything else, what does the mount command (with no args) show ? Using packages from another distribution is calling for problems... What is the ntfs-3g version from the debian repository which you cannot use ? What means "nothing possible". You must at least get error messages. And you do not need direct access rights.
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------Von: Jean-Pierre André <jean-pierre.andre@wanadoo.fr> An: 779160@bugs.debian.org, rabre@hispeed.ch Betreff: Re: Bug#779160: ntfs-3g: I can't umount/mount -n -o remount, rw /ext/hdd... Datum: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:53:11 +0100 Please tell what happens. There must be an error message. Also what is your exact mount command and what is configured in /etc/fstab. If nothing is configured in /etc/fstab, the mount command should have at least two arguments : the address of the device (/dev/something) and the mount point (an existing void directory). If you can unmount through disk-manager, then your device was mounted, and you cannot mount it again. After you plug in the device, before doing anything else, what does the mount command (with no args) show ? Using packages from another distribution is calling for problems... What is the ntfs-3g version from the debian repository which you cannot use ? What means "nothing possible". You must at least get error messages. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX unter the user worker I can't use kate in the root shell root@7deb:/home/worker# kate /etc/fstab QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. No protocol specified kate: cannot connect to X server :0 root@7deb:/home/worker# I have to use this trick Ctrl + Alt + F2 To login as root to start the root shell kate /etc/fstab root shell df /dev/sdc1 976759804 743605988 233153816 77% /media/Rb1TB /dev/sdd1 1953477628 178017088 1775460540 10% /media/worker/RB2TB blkid /dev/sdc1: LABEL="Rb1TB" UUID="BC863C92863C4EE0" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="000d2082-01" /dev/sdd1: LABEL="RB2TB" UUID="7EBCA22CBCA1DEC1" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="dd8b1770-01" A friend said, write it in this way. What I did. Result 1 # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> #Entry for /dev/sda8 : UUID=87e8c106-ee34-4476-9e5f-b6102c315d1b / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 #Entry for /dev/sdc1 : UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 #Entry for /dev/sda7 : UUID=6956306a-b2fb-472e-b79e-b2f620bfbf70 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sdc1 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/sdd1 /media/RB2TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 Then I start the disk-manager Message The following entries of your configuration file use the same mount point: /dev/sdc1 on /media/Rb1TB (ntfs) = keep selected UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 on /media/Rb1TB (ntfs) Result 2 # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> #Entry for /dev/sda8 : UUID=87e8c106-ee34-4476-9e5f-b6102c315d1b / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 #Entry for /dev/sdc1 : UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0$ #Entry for /dev/sdd1 : UUID=7EBCA22CBCA1DEC1 /media/RB2TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0$ #Entry for /dev/sda7 : UUID=6956306a-b2fb-472e-b79e-b2f620bfbf70 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 #UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 Root Shell root@7deb:/home/worker# mkdir /media/RB2TB/Backup_Data mkdir: The directory "/ media / RB2TB / Backup_Data" can not be created: The file system is read-only root@7deb:/home/worker# The ntfs-3g is still from alien -d ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-6.fc20.x86_64.rpm and this is from Fedora 20 The ntfs-3g Version is blocked in Synaptic. I removed now the blocked from ntfs-3g and was making the update in synaptic In Nautilus I unmounted the Drives Rb1TB and RB2TB I Nautilus I tried to mount the Drives Rb1TB and RB2TB The Message is in both cases the same Sorry, could not the entire contents of "RB2TB" display: Input / output error In Memory Of, which is now the original repository driver from jessie The fstab result 2 is exactly the same Root Shell root@7deb:/home/worker# df /dev/sdc1 976759804 743605988 233153816 77% /media/Rb1TB /dev/sdd1 1953477628 178017088 1775460540 10% /media/RB2TB root@7deb:/home/worker# root@7deb:/home/worker# mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Rb1TB Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command. root@7deb:/home/worker# In Nautilus I unmounted the Drive Rb1TB Root shell root@7deb:/home/worker# mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Rb1TB root@7deb:/home/worker# 2015 Feb 25 14:11:34 7deb GLib-CRITICAL: Source ID 295 was not found when attempting to remove it In Nautilus I tried to mount the Drive Rb1TB Sorry, could not the entire contents of "Rb1TB" display: Input / output error I hope this is enough information for you And thanks for your / their help cheers Ralph
/dev/sdc1 is mounted on /media/Rb1TB and /dev/sdd1 is mounted on /media/worker/RB2TB This tells you you have conflicting lines in /etc/fstab : > UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 and > /dev/sdc1 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0 These lines conflict because they declare the same mount point (as UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 is currently plugged in as /dev/sdc1). You should probably only use the one with UUID, so that it will be mounted the same way even if you plug it differently. However, if this is for backup, you should not set umask as 0222 (which means you want to be protected against writing to it. Just remove the umask option if you do not want any permission limitation. Besides, the other device is strangely mounted according to /etc/fstab it was expected to be mounted to /media/RB2TB, not /media/worker/RB2TB This ntfs-3g version is clear from the file name, and I wanted the version from Debian repository. The output from df above shows that /dev/sdc1 is currently mounted on /media/Rb1TB, so you cannot mount it again, which is what the above message says. As it was mounted automatically as requested in /etc/fstab, you do not have to mount manually.
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------Von: Jean-Pierre André <jean-pierre.andre@wanadoo.fr> An: rabre@hispeed.ch <rabre@hispeed.ch>, 779160@bugs.debian.org Betreff: Re: Bug#779160: ntfs-3g: I can't umount/mount -n -o remount, rw /ext/hdd... Datum: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:13:59 +0100 /dev/sdc1 is mounted on /media/Rb1TB and /dev/sdd1 is mounted on /media/worker/RB2TB This tells you you have conflicting lines in /etc/fstab : > UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 and > /dev/sdc1 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0 These lines conflict because they declare the same mount point (as UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 is currently plugged in as /dev/sdc1). You should probably only use the one with UUID, so that it will be mounted the same way even if you plug it differently. However, if this is for backup, you should not set umask as 0222 (which means you want to be protected against writing to it. Just remove the umask option if you do not want any permission limitation. Besides, the other device is strangely mounted according to /etc/fstab it was expected to be mounted to /media/RB2TB, not /media/worker/RB2TB This ntfs-3g version is clear from the file name, and I wanted the version from Debian repository. currently mounted on /media/Rb1TB, so you cannot mount it again, which is what the above message says. As it was mounted automatically as requested in /etc/fstab, you do not have to mount manually. Thank you very much for your support With the Information from you I configured the fstab old UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0$ UUID=7EBCA22CBCA1DEC1 /media/RB2TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0$ new1 UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,auto,uid=0,gid=46,nls=utf8 0 0 UUID=7EBCA22CBCA1DEC1 /media/RB2TB ntfs rw,user,auto,uid=0,gid=46,nls=utf8 0 0 Then I tried Rb1TB / RB2TB to open by double klick in Nautilus The System Message is in both cases: Sorry, could not the entire contents of "RB2TB" display: Input / output error You do not have the required permissions to view the content of "Rb1TB". You do not have the required permissions to view the content of "RB2TB". I am installing the The ntfs-3g is still from alien -d ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-6.fc20.x86_64.rpm and this is from Fedora 20 new2 UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=000,nls=utf8 0$ UUID=7EBCA22CBCA1DEC1 /media/RB2TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=000,nls=utf8 0$ In Nautilus I can see the files and folders, I can make copies but I cant create an folder or write on the HDD Root Shell root@7deb:/home/worker# cp help* /media/Rb1TB cp: regular file "/media/Rb1TB/help_chmod.txt" can not be created: The file system is read-only mc cd /media Can chmod for "Rb1TB" does not carry the file system is read-only (30) In summary this means (imho) With the Fedora 20 Driver ntfs-3g I can mount it and copy With the Jessie ntfs-3g Driver I can do nothing Cheers Ralph
[...] Please try the version from unstable (Sid) instead. Regards, Laszlo/GCS
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------Von: László Böszörményi (GCS) <gcs@debian.org> An: rabre@hispeed.ch <rabre@hispeed.ch>, 779160@bugs.debian.org Betreff: Re: Bug#779160: ntfs-3g: I can't umount/mount -n -o remount, rw /ext/hdd or chmod --recursive ug+r * or write on a USB HDD Datum: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 08:26:46 +0100 [...] Please try the version from unstable (Sid) instead. Regards, Laszlo/GCS Hy Laszlo thank you so match, but how can I find the file? Please can you describe the Link or the way where I have to go? Because I am unsure with: deb http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/ contrib non-free main Cheers Ralph
Hy There I wrote in the third line from my /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/ jessie contrib non-free main deb-src http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/ jessie contrib non-free main deb http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/ contrib non-free main Because I can with the original ntfs-3g not work. There is no way to mount a external USB Harddisk. Laszlo/GCS answer was Please try the version from unstable (Sid) instead. but how can I find and install the file in Synaptic? Or is this only possible in the shell? Please can somebody describe the Link or the way where I have to go? Many THANKS for your help Regards, Ralph
By telling us which ntfs-3g version you have a problem with, we could route you around known problems with that version. Also you bug report could be recorded and the solution made available to other users having a similar problem. The version is obvious from the package name. Also, when you have this bad version installed, you only have to start the command "ntfs-3g -help" to get the version. https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/ntfs-3g/download and install as root with : dpkg -i ntfs-3g_2014.2.15AR.3-1_amd64.deb Finally, after you install a new version over one which leads to problems, better reboot to get rid of all bad states arising from those problems.
Hy there and Hy Jean-Pierre Andre, and many, many thanks! You have solved my problem. With this link: https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/ntfs-3g/download No problem, I know there is always a loss of information. After the update from wheezy to jessie I could not mount the USB Harddisk With the driver from Fedora 20/Ntfs-3g I could mount the USB Harddisk but only in the read only mode. But I need the Harddisk for Backups. I could not use the chown/chmod or ntsfix. Messages: read only mode, Access denied, Not enough rights etc. Cheers, Ralph-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------Von: Jean-Pierre André <jean-pierre.andre@wanadoo.fr> An: 779160@bugs.debian.org, rabre@hispeed.ch Betreff: Re: Bug#779160: ntfs-3g: I can't umount/mount -n -o remount, rw /ext/hdd... Datum: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:53:11 +0100 Please tell what happens. There must be an error message. Also what is your exact mount command and what is configured in /etc/fstab. If nothing is configured in /etc/fstab, the mount command should have at least two arguments : the address of the device (/dev/something) and the mount point (an existing void directory). If you can unmount through disk-manager, then your device was mounted, and you cannot mount it again. After you plug in the device, before doing anything else, what does the mount command (with no args) show ? Using packages from another distribution is calling for problems... What is the ntfs-3g version from the debian repository which you cannot use ? What means "nothing possible". You must at least get error messages. with XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX unter the user worker I can't use kate in the root shell root@7deb:/home/worker# kate /etc/fstab QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. No protocol specified kate: cannot connect to X server :0 root@7deb:/home/worker# I have to use this trick Ctrl + Alt + F2 To login as root to start the root shell kate /etc/fstab root shell df /dev/sdc1 976759804 743605988 233153816 77% /media/Rb1TB /dev/sdd1 1953477628 178017088 1775460540 10% /media/worker/RB2TB blkid /dev/sdc1: LABEL="Rb1TB" UUID="BC863C92863C4EE0" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="000d2082-01" /dev/sdd1: LABEL="RB2TB" UUID="7EBCA22CBCA1DEC1" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="dd8b1770-01" A friend said, write it in this way. What I did. Result 1 # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> #Entry for /dev/sda8 : UUID=87e8c106-ee34-4476-9e5f-b6102c315d1b / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 #Entry for /dev/sdc1 : UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 #Entry for /dev/sda7 : UUID=6956306a-b2fb-472e-b79e-b2f620bfbf70 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sdc1 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/sdd1 /media/RB2TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0 0 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 Then I start the disk-manager Message The following entries of your configuration file use the same mount point: /dev/sdc1 on /media/Rb1TB (ntfs) = keep selected UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 on /media/Rb1TB (ntfs) Result 2 # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass> #Entry for /dev/sda8 : UUID=87e8c106-ee34-4476-9e5f-b6102c315d1b / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 #Entry for /dev/sdc1 : UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0$ #Entry for /dev/sdd1 : UUID=7EBCA22CBCA1DEC1 /media/RB2TB ntfs rw,user,noauto,uid=0,gid=46,umask=007,nls=utf8 0$ #Entry for /dev/sda7 : UUID=6956306a-b2fb-472e-b79e-b2f620bfbf70 none swap sw 0 0 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 #UUID=BC863C92863C4EE0 /media/Rb1TB ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0 Root Shell root@7deb:/home/worker# mkdir /media/RB2TB/Backup_Data mkdir: The directory "/ media / RB2TB / Backup_Data" can not be created: The file system is read-only root@7deb:/home/worker# The ntfs-3g is still from alien -d ntfs-3g-2013.1.13-6.fc20.x86_64.rpm and this is from Fedora 20 The ntfs-3g Version is blocked in Synaptic. I removed now the blocked from ntfs-3g and was making the update in synaptic In Nautilus I unmounted the Drives Rb1TB and RB2TB I Nautilus I tried to mount the Drives Rb1TB and RB2TB The Message is in both cases the same Sorry, could not the entire contents of "RB2TB" display: Input / output error In Memory Of, which is now the original repository driver from jessie The fstab result 2 is exactly the same Root Shell root@7deb:/home/worker# df /dev/sdc1 976759804 743605988 233153816 77% /media/Rb1TB /dev/sdd1 1953477628 178017088 1775460540 10% /media/RB2TB root@7deb:/home/worker# root@7deb:/home/worker# mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Rb1TB Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command. root@7deb:/home/worker# In Nautilus I unmounted the Drive Rb1TB Root shell root@7deb:/home/worker# mount /dev/sdc1 /media/Rb1TB root@7deb:/home/worker# 2015 Feb 25 14:11:34 7deb GLib-CRITICAL: Source ID 295 was not found when attempting to remove it In Nautilus I tried to mount the Drive Rb1TB Sorry, could not the entire contents of "Rb1TB" display: Input / output error I hope this is enough information for you And thanks for your / their help cheers Ralph -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------Von: Jean-Pierre André <jean-pierre.andre@wanadoo.fr> An: rabre@hispeed.ch Kopie: 779160@bugs.debian.org Betreff: Re: Bug#779160: ntfs-3g: I can't umount/mount -n -o remount, rw /ext/hdd... Datum: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:44:51 +0100 By telling us which ntfs-3g version you have a problem with, we could route you around known problems with that version. Also you bug report could be recorded and the solution made available to other users having a similar problem. The version is obvious from the package name. Also, when you have this bad version installed, you only have to start the command "ntfs-3g -help" to get the version. https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/ntfs-3g/download and install as root with : dpkg -i ntfs-3g_2014.2.15AR.3-1_amd64.deb Finally, after you install a new version over one which leads to problems, better reboot to get rid of all bad states arising from those problems.
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