#793073 appfinder is created under other windows

Package:
xfwm4
Source:
xfwm4
Description:
window manager of the Xfce project
Submitter:
Celejar
Date:
2015-07-21 21:15:03 UTC
Severity:
normal
#793073#5
Date:
2015-07-21 02:59:43 UTC
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Not sure whether this is a bug in xfwm4 or xfce4-appfinder. I just upgraded
from Wheezy to Jessie, and I now find that the xfce4-appfinder (formerly
xfrun4) window opens under other windows (whether opened with '<alt> F2' or
'xfrun4' from a terminal). In fact, I first thought that something was broken
and xfrun wasn't doing anything at all, until I realized that the window was
indeed opening, just under other windows. This can't be right.
#793073#10
Date:
2015-07-21 06:01:04 UTC
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Make sure the way you run it (either from a keyboard shortcut or from a
panel shortcut) uses startup notification.
#793073#15
Date:
2015-07-21 14:50:25 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:01:04 +0200 Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org> wrote:

Explain please? As I reported, the problem occurs even when simply
typing "xfrun4" from a terminal. What should I check?

Celejar
#793073#20
Date:
2015-07-21 19:49:39 UTC
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xfrun4 from a terminal sure doesn't use startup notification. Use a
shortcut for that.

Regards,
#793073#25
Date:
2015-07-21 20:17:34 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:49:39 +0200 Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org> wrote:

Okay - I have Settings / Keyboard / Application Shortcuts restored to
their defaults, where <Alt>F2 triggers 'xfce4-appfinder --collapsed',
and I'm seeing this behavior. What setting needs to be adjusted to
invoke "startup notification"?

Celejar
#793073#30
Date:
2015-07-21 20:19:57 UTC
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Tick the adequately named “Use startup notification” checkbox in the
shorcut edit dialogs.

Regards,
#793073#35
Date:
2015-07-21 21:10:38 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:19:57 +0200 Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org> wrote:

Got it - seems to work now.

Yes, the box is adequately named - but how to bring up the edit dialog
is not. I had no idea the thing even existed. I had tried clicking and
double clicking on the shortcut, but apparently only on the "Shortcut"
field, which brings up the shortcut key selection, not the edit dialog.
It is hardly clear to the user that something interesting and different
happens when the "Command" field is double-clicked (nor does the
documentation here

http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/4.10/keyboard

say anything about this). Some hint or button might be a good idea.

Additionally, there's no explanation of what startup notification is,
and why it might be important. In fact, the Xfce FAQ itself implies
that all it does is cause an hourglass to be displayed while
applications are loading:

https://wiki.xfce.org/faq#panels

Anyway, thanks much for the explanation, but I do think we need better
documentation / better defaults.


Celejar