Dear Maintainer,
i can't use the program because it is not able to create the projectfiles. it
wont start without setting up a projekt first. i think it is a permissions
problem. if i start ardour3 with root privileges it can create the project and
i can start to use the program.
this problem was not present in a older version of ardou3.
i used the program 6 months ago in my laptop and hadno problems.

the outcome i expect is that the project will be written to my directory, where
i have write privileges and that the programm starts an lets me record and
create my music.

thank you very much
have a nice day

rouven.

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Hi,
thanks for your bug-report.

since you suspect that the cause of your problems are permissions, could
you please check the (existence and) permissions of
- /home/rouven/Ardour/
- /home/rouven/Ardour/blablabla
and attach them to this bug-report?

mgars
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/home/rouven is my homedirectory and all permissions are the default
permissions of any fresh debian install.

the permissions problem is related to jack. and the jack config that is
launched by ardour3. it wants realtime and realtime is not enabled/permitted
by default. futhermore ardour3 starts jack and leaves it somehow broken
launched. that causes a user to think jack is properly running and the user
thinks the problem must be somewere else. you may have to kill jack and
ardour3 and restart the computer to loose this "deadlock"!

a temporary solution is to start jack before you start ardour thereby you
disable realtime in jack settings then you start the jack audio server.

also ardour needs the package "xjadeo" wich the user has to install seperate.
without xjadeo you get a red notice in ardours log.

greetings
rouven


Am Freitag, 9. September 2016, 20:57:21 schrieben Sie:

how is this related to being unable to create a project in
"/home/rouven/Ardour/blablabla".

if it is a separate bug please report it separately.

this is yet another issue (unrelated to any of the two others).
apart from that, a "red notice" in some random log does not necessarily
*require* you to install some other package.

mgfsd
IOhannes

that's just ardours errormessage. it is not a seperate bug. ardour stops
setting up the project because ardour cannot launch the audioengine and that
is because jack is not allowed to start the jack audio server in realtime
mode.

greetings
rouven


Am Freitag, 9. September 2016, 21:44:10 schrieben Sie:

about that red notice.
the policy of debian says that all packages shall produce no error message.
yes it is a second issue but it is one.
for full functionality ardour needs xjadeo and that random log is not a random
log, it apperas every time you start ardour for as long as there a red
notices.

there is actually a 3rd problem related to that (not so random) log. on KDE it
appears under the main window and thery it locks the mainwindow so ardour
would not accept input. and while the user does not know, that there is
another window of ardour open: that might count as a big problem!

have you ever tried ardour3? who are you? what is your position in the
proaudio department of debian?

thank you for your attention
greetings
rouven


Am Freitag, 9. September 2016, 21:44:10 schrieben Sie:

please point me to the relevant section of the Debian Policy.

sorry about the wording.
with "random log" i did not mean to imply that the error message you
receive is truely "random". instead i wanted to say that not every
log-message that is "red" and is labeled "error" is automatically a
show-stopper that warrants the dysfunctionality of the program that
emits it.

thank's for your kind words.
i'm one of the people that actually do the work to bring ardour to your
Debian system. just search for my name on [1] (on that page you can also
click on my name to see whether i do anything else of unworth).


gfmadsr
IOhannes


[1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ardour

not sure whether i understand this. if by "ardours errormessage" you
mean the one about mixxing xjadeo, then i am *pretty* confident that it
is unrelated (xjadeo is a video player, needed if you want to align your
session with a video track; but otherwise unrelated and unrelated to
ardour's audio engine)

ok, this might make sense.
so can you confirm that it works if you grant rt priviliges to the user?

e.g. using security limits:

(after you have setup this file, make sure that your user is in the
"audio" group, log-out & log-in and try again)

also, could you please check the (existence and) permissions of
- /home/rouven/Ardour/
- /home/rouven/Ardour/blablabla

gfmdsa
IOhannes

This bug really concerns the ardour3 sourcepackage (no longer found in
Debian/stretch).

gfmsrd
IOhannes