#933271 libreoffice: Should recommend libreoffice-gnome

#933271#5
Date:
2019-07-28 15:16:31 UTC
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To:
Dear Maintainers,

LibreOffice is not able to read/write to GVFS mounts (GIO) if
libreoffice-gnome is not installed. If I am not wrong, libreoffice-gnome
is installed automatically only in the following cases when installing a
Debian computer:
- when choosing task-gnome-desktop (which recommends libreoffice-gnome)
- when choosing task-gnome-cinammon (which depends on
cinnamon-desktop-environment, which recommends libreoffice-gnome)

This means that when installing Debian with a desktop environment,
LibreOffice is not able to read/write files on GVFS mounts on:
- KDE (I think it uses KIO instead of GIO, so it might work in another way)
- Mate
- XFCE
- LXDE
- LXQT

I believe that installing a Debian desktop with "recommended"
dependencies enabled should automatically install libreoffice-gnome so
that this functionality is not broken. Especially because when
LibreOffice fails it is very difficult to understand where it comes from
(it could be an issue with the SMB share or with GVFS).

Could you make libreoffice (or another package like task-desktop)
recommends libreoffice-gnome?

Thanks for your time and work,
Yvan

#933271#12
Date:
2019-07-28 15:34:41 UTC
From:
To:
severity 933271 wishlist
thanks

Hi,
desktop environment.

$ apt-cache show task-desktop
Package: task-desktop
Source: tasksel
Version: 3.53
Installed-Size: 6
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: all
Depends: tasksel (= 3.53), xorg, xserver-xorg-video-all,
xserver-xorg-input-all, desktop-base
Recommends: task-gnome-desktop | [...]
[...]

So why would installing -gnome help here?

As shown above, task-desktop recommends task-gnome-desktop which already
does what you want.

Regards,

Rene

#933271#17
Date:
2019-07-28 15:38:14 UTC
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Hi,

$ apt-cache show libreoffice
Package: libreoffice
Version: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u2
Installed-Size: 92
Maintainer: Debian LibreOffice Maintainers
<debian-openoffice@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Depends: libreoffice-base, libreoffice-calc, libreoffice-core (=
1:6.1.5-3+deb10u2), libreoffice-draw, libreoffice-impress,
libreoffice-math, libreoffice-report-builder-bin, libreoffice-writer,
libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer | libreoffice-avmedia-backend-vlc,
python3-uno (>= 4.4.0~beta2)
Suggests: cups-bsd, firefox-esr | thunderbird | firefox, ghostscript,
gnupg, gpa, hunspell-dictionary, hyphen-hyphenation-patterns,
imagemagick | graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat, libgl1,
libreoffice-gnome | libreoffice-kde5, [...]

So apt install libreoffice would have shown that. But yes, tasksel
wouldn't have shown it.

Regards,

Rene

#933271#22
Date:
2019-07-28 19:17:05 UTC
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Le 28/07/2019 à 17:38, Rene Engelhard a écrit :
That is exactly `apt show libreoffice` that gave me the answer :-)
The point is that not everybody has the abilities to use this command
and find that libreoffice-gnome is the pacakge to install.

Regards,
Yvan

#933271#27
Date:
2019-07-28 19:45:09 UTC
From:
To:
Hi,

For them is the desktop task (task-desktop).

As outlined that installs libreoffice-gnome unless you choose an other
desktop yourself.

If you choose an other desktop, why would you want someting
GNOME-specific? And if you want, you then need to install what is
missing.

And if you don't use the task apt shows the Suggests when apt
install'ing libreoffice.

I don't see a need for a change.

Regards,

Rene

#933271#32
Date:
2019-07-28 21:06:16 UTC
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To:
Le 28/07/2019 à 21:45, Rene Engelhard a écrit :
During install, if you choose for example: "Desktop environment",
"LXQT", "print server" and "standard system utilities", then
libreoffice-gnome won't be installed.
 From what I know, GVFS is used by all proposed DE except KDE
- caja recommends gvfs-backends
- thunar recommends gvfs
- pcmanfm and pcmanfm-qt recommend gvfs-backends and gvfs-fuse
Regards,
Yvan

#933271#37
Date:
2019-07-29 04:46:09 UTC
From:
To:
Hi,

Wrong, it does, as I showed. See my reply at
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=933271#12

It recommends task-gnome-desktop...
                                                                    ^^^^^^
					... but that isn't in effect
					when you choose one
					yourself ...

True, didn*t deny that.

Regards,

Rene

#933271#42
Date:
2019-07-29 08:50:40 UTC
From:
To:
Hi,

Le 29/07/2019 à 06:46, Rene Engelhard a écrit :

Thanks for the clarification.
environments use GVFS: most software will work on GVFS mountpoints but
not LibreOffice.

If you really think that this is not a problem, feel free to close this
issue. I really find this is a usability issue, but I don't know what I
could say further to convince you :-)

Regards,
Yvan

#933271#47
Date:
2019-07-29 08:58:23 UTC
From:
To:
Hi again,
What I should have say: a user who installs a DE from the installer
expect it to be fully functional.

#933271#52
Date:
2024-04-17 11:53:46 UTC
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To:
Dear submitter,

as the package libreoffice has just been removed from the Debian archive
experimental we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see https://bugs.debian.org/1069123

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using https://snapshot.debian.org/.

Please note that the changes have been done on the master archive and
will not propagate to any mirrors until the next dinstall run at the
earliest.

This message was generated automatically; if you believe that there is
a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing
ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org.

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