Dear Maintainers


The Dutch translation for win32-loader has been renewed to meet the
needs of version 0.10.0.


With kind regards

Maarten
member of the Dutch translation team of Debian

Hi Maarten,

Maarten@posteo.de wrote:

While reviewing your changings, I found that you have added a somewhat longer
text (explanation) to a string, that's is only short in English:



+# The URL found in the address bar of the front page of a website is its base URL. In other words, the common prefix found while navigating inside a given website is known as the base URL.
+# (https://www.techopedia.com/definition/4858/base-url)
+# --
+# A base URL is, basically, the consistent part of your web address.
+# For example, throughout this training site, you'll note that the address section http://webtech.training.oregonstate.edu always appears in the address bar.  This is the base URL.  Everything that follows it is known as a URL path.
+# To find the base URL of your website, go to the site's front page.  What you see in the address bar on your site's front page is the base URL of your website.
+# (https://webtech.training.oregonstate.edu/faq/what-base-url)
+# --
+# Maarten
 #: win32-loader.c:145
 msgid "Base URL for netboot images (linux and initrd.gz):"
-msgstr "Basis-URL voor netboot-images (linux en initrd.gz):"
+msgstr ""
+"[Laat een basale URL het gedeelte van een URL zijn dat gemeenschappelijk is "
+"voor alle bestanden van een server. Laat een netwerk-opstart-image een "
+"archiefbestand zijn dat een bestandssysteem bevat waarmee een computer kan "
+"worden opgestart via een netwerk. --vertaler]\n"
+"\n"
+"Geef de basale URL voor de netwerk-opstart-images (linux en initrd.gz):"



Did you check, that such long text can be correctly displayed in the running
program?
(I can think of, it's only a small box, where this phrase is displayed in?)


Regards
Holger

Dear Holger


I have read your e-mail of 17 October 2019, in which you asked me two
questions about my Dutch translation for win32-loader.

Your questions are only about the following part of my translation.

SOURCE TEXT
Base URL for netboot images (linux and initrd.gz):

TRANSLATION
[Laat een basale URL het gedeelte van een URL zijn dat
gemeenschappelijk is voor alle bestanden van een server. Laat een
netwerk-opstart-image een archiefbestand zijn dat een bestandssysteem
bevat waarmee een computer kan worden opgestart via een netwerk.
--vertaler]\n
\n
Geef de basale URL voor de netwerk-opstart-images (linux en
initrd.gz):

YOUR QUESTIONS
You wrote that I had added a somewhat longer text to a string that
is short in English. You asked me whether I had checked that the
resulting long text will be correctly displayed by the program. You
also thought of the text as being displayed in a small box and asked
me whether that assumption is correct.

ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION
I did not check that the translation will be correctly displayed by
the program.

However, checking the correct display of a translation is not my
responsibility. My responsibility is to provide the best possible
translation that complies with the translation instructions. In the
case of the above-mentioned translation, a translation instruction
was not given by the programmers. This means that I had complete
freedom in devising the best translation.

The characteristics of a perfect translation are many. One of them
is full usability for the purpose specified in the translation
instructions. When translation instructions are not provided, a
translator simply aims for maximum usefulness of the translation
itself for the target audience.

The correct display of a translation is the responsibility of the
programmers. The programmers can choose to use a text area with a
vertical scrollbar so that a translation will always fit, or they
can provide a translation instruction to make sure that a translation
will fit in the available space. The matter is not of my concern.

ANSWER TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION
I do not know whether the above translation is displayed in a small
box.

'Base URL for netboot images (linux and initrd.gz):' was found in
'work/l10n/win32-loader.c'. This file uses a function 'langstring'
that seems to be used in connection with nsis.

The website of nsis has a page about a message box. See
https://nsis.sourceforge.io/Reference/MessageBox . It is not clear
whether this message box has a vertical scrollbar that appears
automatically when needed. A procedure 'MessageBox' is called in 7
files in 'work' and their names end with '.nsi'.

The function 'langstring' seems to relate 'Base URL for netboot
images (linux and initrd.gz):' to 'custom5'. 'custom5' can also be
found in the file 'work/custom.nsi'. It contains '${NSD_CreateLabel}
0u 48u -3u 8u $(custom5)'. I cannot understand that code, however.

SUMMARY
You asked me whether I had checked that a long translation will be
correctly displayed by win32-loader. I did not check that. However,
checking the correct display of a translation is not my
responsibility.

You also asked me whether the translation is displayed in a small
box. I do not know that and I am not able to find that out.

CONCLUSION
Your questions have been answered.


With kind regards

Maarten
member of the Dutch translation team of Debian