Hi,

Now that the debian policy supports FHS 3.0 (since 4.1.5) and the FHS
3.0 describes /usr/libexec[0], it would be nice to have (all?) the
executables installed in /usr/lib/ to /usr/libexec.

Several packages have already migrated, could a (pedentic?) test be added?

Kind regards,

Laurent Bigonville

[0] http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch04s07.html

Hello,

Bug #954149 in lintian reported by you has been fixed in the
Git repository and is awaiting an upload. You can see the commit
message below and you can check the diff of the fix at:

https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/commit/fb33fd7d1448994d7083d5738ad590c73c89c88e
This has been against file system hierarchy guidelines since Debian adopted
policy version 4.1.5. More details can be found here:

http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch04s07.html

The relevant policy section is 9.1.1.
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https://bugs.debian.org/954149

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
lintian, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 954149@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

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Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> (supplier of updated lintian package)

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Format: 1.8
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:56:18 +0000
Source: lintian
Architecture: source
Version: 2.58.0
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Lintian Maintainers <lintian-maint@debian.org>
Changed-By: Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org>
Closes: 924449 935706 954146 954149 954224
Changes:
 lintian (2.58.0) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Summary of tag changes:
     + Added:
       - executable-in-usr-lib
 .
   [ Felix Lechner ]
   * Fix interaction between two gzip timestamp tags.
     (Closes: #954146)
   * In terminal output, print overrides in a subdued color.
     (Closes: #954224)
   * Add tag and check for executables in /usr/lib, which violates the FHS.
     (Closes: #954149)
   * Use the "Severity" field in tags to determine their display prominence
     directly. (Closes: #935706)
   * Remove temporary directories for pools when they are no longer needed.
     (Closes: #924449)
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from #debian-qa

<me> IMHO executable-in-usr-lib expresses a preference not supported by
    Debian policy (or FHS 3.0)

A helpful bystander: the FHS page lintian links to says "To accomodate this
    restriction, it became common practice to use /usr/lib
    instead. Either practice is now acceptable, but each application
    must choose one way or the other to organize itself." so I suppose
    it's justified if lintian finds a package using both /usr/libexec
    and /usr/lib
<me> ack
<me> there are about 12000 executable files in /usr/lib on this machine.
<lechner> bremner olly: added for #954149, please reopen and comment
    there, if needed

I know it's pedantic. I also know that new contributors to Debian try
and fix all the tags, which wastes my time.

Hi,

Like the bug filer, I believe executables should not be placed in
usr/lib. At the same time, Lintian also ships some there. Combined
with the above, I am not sure the tag is fixable.

As a last step before a possible removal, the tag was marked as
experimental, which tends to hide it from view. [1]

Please submit any additional positions to this bug. Thanks!

Kind regards
Felix Lechner

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/commit/80ac50c172871c7d74b35567aea6423b4f3e8792