dbus-glib is a deprecated D-Bus library with some significant design
flaws, and is essentially unmaintained. I would like to minimize its
use, and eventually remove it from Debian. There will not be a
version that fixes its design flaws, because that would be a major
compatibility break, and any user of dbus-glib who is willing to port
their application to a newer, incompatible version should instead be
porting their application to a better D-Bus implementation such as
GDBus.

For most purposes, the recommended replacement for dbus-glib is the
GDBus family of APIs in GLib, found in <gio/gio.h>. This does not add
an additional dependency, because dbus-glib already depends on a
sufficiently new version of GLib. A porting guide is available in the
GLib documentation:
<https://developer.gnome.org/gio/stable/ch35.html>. Practical
examples of porting from dbus-glib to GDBus can be found in the git
history of most older GNOME applications.

Alternatives to GDBus, with different design emphasis and trade-offs,
include sd-bus (systemd's D-Bus implementation), QtDBus (Qt's D-Bus
API), and libdbus (the low-level reference D-Bus implementation).
Please contact the D-Bus mailing list <dbus at lists.freedesktop.org>
if you are unsure which D-Bus implementation is most suitable for a
particular package.

Some libraries expose dbus-glib as part of their API/ABI, in which
case removing the deprecated dependency requires breaking API/ABI
(telepathy-glib is a good example). For these libraries, maintainers
should talk to the dependent library's upstream developers about
whether the dependent library should break API/ABI and switch to
GDBus, or whether the dependent library should itself be deprecated.

In a few cases, the package uses the reference D-Bus library libdbus
for all D-Bus-related APIs, and only uses dbus-glib as a way to
connect libdbus to the GLib main loop: if the only functions
referenced from dbus-glib are dbus_connection_setup_with_g_main() and
dbus_server_setup_with_g_main(), then you are in this situation. The
recommended replacement in this case is to bundle the dbus-gmain
branch from the dbus-glib git repository, for example as a `git
subtree` or `git submodule`. For example, dbus-python's GLib
integration now works like this. See
<https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/dbus/dbus-glib/blob/dbus-gmain/README
.md> for more details.

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
xiphos, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 955971@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Teus Benschop <teusbenschop@debian.org> (supplier of updated xiphos package)

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Format: 1.8
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:44:06 +0200
Source: xiphos
Architecture: source
Version: 4.2.1+dfsg1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: CrossWire Packaging Team <pkg-crosswire-devel@alioth-lists.debian.net>
Changed-By: Teus Benschop <teusbenschop@debian.org>
Closes: 922784 947542 955971
Changes:
 xiphos (4.2.1+dfsg1-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Daniel Glassey ]
   * d/control remove Unit 193 from uploaders on his request
 .
   [ Dimitri John Ledkov ]
   * Drop myself from uploaders.
 .
   [ Debian Janitor ]
   * Trim trailing whitespace.
   * Use versioned copyright format URI.
   * Bump debhelper from old 11 to 12.
 .
   [ Bastian Germann ]
   * Drop waf for next version
   * d/copyright: Drop undefined Upstream-Source
   * Replace gnome-doc-utils with yelp (Closes: #947542)
   * Replace waf with cmake (Closes: #922784)
   * Change Build-Depends to new version's requirements
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   * Drop and refresh patches
   * Fix install locations
   * Update debhelper version (13)
   * Do not build epub
   * lintian: rules-requires-root-missing
   * lintian: debug-symbol-migration-possibly-complete
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   * d/copyright: Add missing info
   * d/control: Suggest festival
   * Add patch: CMake: Don't include win32
   * Disable postinst target
 .
   [ Teus Benschop ]
   * New upstream version 4.2.1+dfsg1 (Closes: #955971)
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It was closed because the changelog of the new upload had this bug number,
whereas it should have been another bug number to close. So yes, it's
correct to reopen this bug again.

It was forwarded upstream.

Question to the Debian developers: Should we just disable the dbus
functionality in Xiphos?

Yes, you are correct mentioning these three things that DD's do.

The question I have has to do with bug number
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=955971

Xiphos depends on deprecated dbus-glib. And there's lots of other packages
also depending on this deprecated library.

My question is then, what are the options to handle this bug number 955971.

We could be doing nothing just now and leave the bug number as it is.

We also could, say, write patches, that either disable the dependency on
dbus-glib.

Or perhaps there's other ways to deal with it.

What do you think?

I think that Bastian Germann is my hero, he spotted
that it was not right to close this bug report yet.

And it is OK to have _valid_ bugreports open on a package.


In https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos/issues/894#issuecomment-653862377
is Upstream asked for status on  dbus-glib.



And due the (not existing) agreement "Someboby else should do it"
will nothing happen.


Regards
Geert Stappers

forwarded 955971 https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos/issues/1049
thanks


Met vriendelijke groeten,
With kind regards,

Teus Benschop

Control: severity -1 important

I'm raising the bug reports for remaining uses of dbus-glib to important
severity. It's now been 11 years since dbus-glib was documented as
deprecated in its own NEWS file, and it hasn't got any better-quality or
more-maintained since then.

It might be useful to note that since the initial MBF in 2018, the
migration guide from dbus-glib to GDBus has moved to
<https://docs.gtk.org/gio/migrating-gdbus.html>.

     smcv

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
xiphos, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 955971@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Bastian Germann <bage@debian.org> (supplier of updated xiphos package)

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Format: 1.8
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2026 23:35:11 +0200
Source: xiphos
Architecture: source
Version: 4.4.0+dfsg1-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: CrossWire Packaging Team <pkg-crosswire-devel@alioth-lists.debian.net>
Changed-By: Bastian Germann <bage@debian.org>
Closes: 955971 1009764
Changes:
 xiphos (4.4.0+dfsg1-1) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   * Team upload
   * New upstream version 4.4.0 (Closes: #955971, #1009764)
   * Drop upstream patch
   * Depend on libspeechd
   * Enable GtkTextView editor
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