#967392 ghemical: depends on deprecated GTK 2

#967392#5
Date:
2020-08-04 10:40:48 UTC
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To:
This package has Build-Depends on GTK 2 (libgtk2.0-dev), or produces
binary packages with a Depends on GTK 2.

GTK 2 was superseded by GTK 3 in 2011 (see
<https://bugs.debian.org/947713>). It no longer receives any significant
upstream maintenance, and in particular does not get feature development
for new features like UI scaling on high-pixel-density displays (HiDPI)
and native Wayland support. GTK 3 is in maintenance mode and GTK 4 is
approaching release, so it seems like a good time to be thinking about
minimizing the amount of GTK 2 in the archive.

GTK 2 is used by some important productivity applications like GIMP, and
has also historically been a popular UI toolkit for proprietary software
that we can't change, so perhaps removing GTK 2 from Debian will never be
feasible. However, it has reached the point where a dependency on it is
a bug - not a release-critical bug, and not a bug that can necessarily
be fixed quickly, but a piece of technical debt that maintainers should
be aware of.

A porting guide is provided in the GTK 3 documentation:
https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/migrating.html

Some libraries (for example libgtkspell0) expose GTK as part of their
API/ABI, in which case removing the deprecated dependency requires
breaking API/ABI. For these libraries, in many cases there will already
be a corresponding GTK 3 version (for example libgtkspell3-3-0), in which
case the GTK 2-based library should probably be deprecated or removed
itself. If there is no GTK 3 equivalent, of a GTK 2-based library,
maintainers should talk to the dependent library's upstream developers
about whether the dependent library should break API/ABI and switch
to GTK 3, or whether the dependent library should itself be deprecated
or removed.

A few packages extend GTK 2 by providing plugins (theme engines, input
methods, etc.) or themes, for example ibus and mate-themes. If these
packages deliberately support GTK 2 even though it is deprecated, and
they also support GTK 3, then it is appropriate to mark this mass-filed
bug as wontfix for now. I have tried to exclude these packages from
the mass-bug-filing, but I probably missed some of them.

Regards,
    smcv

#967392#14
Date:
2023-10-14 16:15:54 UTC
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Please consider removing ghemical. It has quite a low popcon and is a blocker for removing both
libglade2 and gtkglext which should be removed with trixie even if we cannot remove GTK 2.

#967392#19
Date:
2023-10-21 08:01:19 UTC
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To:
... or only drop the GUI.
#967392#24
Date:
2024-12-21 06:57:47 UTC
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To:
Hi Michael,

since bug
  #967865 ghemical: depends on deprecated libglade2
became serious now and bug
  #967392 ghemical: depends on deprecated GTK 2
will fire sooner or later while upstream has orphaned the package a long
time ago I'm wondering whether we have the power inside Debian to take
over upstream work and upgrade the packaging ourselves.  Unfortunately
I do not see any chance for this despite I'm personally miss this package
also in Debian Med since it was used by microbiologists.

If you think we will not be able to maintain the package in the long
run it might make sense to ask for removal of the package.

Kind regards
    Andreas.

#967392#29
Date:
2025-08-13 09:30:40 UTC
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To:
Dear submitter,

as the package ghemical has just been removed from the Debian archive
unstable we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see https://bugs.debian.org/1110863

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using https://snapshot.debian.org/.

Please note that the changes have been done on the master archive and
will not propagate to any mirrors until the next dinstall run at the
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