#975026 Don't add "西元" to worldwide (2020) dates!

Package:
locales
Source:
glibc
Submitter:
積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
Date:
2020-11-19 05:36:02 UTC
Severity:
minor
#975026#5
Date:
2020-11-18 04:42:01 UTC
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I think this,
$ LC_TIME=zh_TW.UTF-8 date
西元2020年11月18日 (週三) 12時39分44秒 CST
should say 公元 not 西元.
Alas, I do not know where to submit this bug to.

#975026#10
Date:
2020-11-18 05:41:07 UTC
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* 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson:

Why do you think so?  These Taiwanese newspapers appear to use 西元
for Gregorian years:

  <https://www.chinatimes.com/hottopic/20191108002189-260809?chdtv>
  <https://udn.com/umedia/story/12749/5023798>

Is there a difference between calendar dates and historical
references?

#975026#15
Date:
2020-11-19 05:09:35 UTC
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We just like one does not want to mention "Christ" when talking about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_time etc.
See also
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/公元
FW> * 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson:

FW> Why do you think so?  These Taiwanese newspapers appear to use 西元
FW> for Gregorian years:

FW>   <https://www.chinatimes.com/hottopic/20191108002189-260809?chdtv>

Actually that only uses it once. But uses an unadorned 2020 many times.
Likewise in:

FW>   <https://udn.com/umedia/story/12749/5023798>

FW> Is there a difference between calendar dates and historical
FW> references?

Even if there was, the date(1) command could only choose one.

And that one should be the one without silly "east" and "west"
connotations.

#975026#22
Date:
2020-11-19 05:16:27 UTC
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retitle 975026 Don't add "西元" to worldwide (2020) dates!
thanks

In fact I got a much better idea:

Chuck the whole 西元 totally!

Does
$ LC_ALL=C date
Thu Nov 19 13:11:20 CST 2020
add "A.D." etc.? No!

Anyway, it is up to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_calendar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_calendar
usages to put special names on their years.

For everybody else, 2020 should just be 2020!

Just like

FW>   <https://www.chinatimes.com/hottopic/20191108002189-260809?chdtv>

Actually that only uses 西元 once. But uses an _unadorned_ 2020 many times.