Dear Maintainer,

It looks like that with the version of 91, Thunderbird removed support for
Movemail accounts. There's no way to setup such account anymore with this
version, and all already present account are removed without any info or
warning. At least the mail stayed intact. I had to install the previous version
(1:78.13.0-1) to revert the unpleasant change.

More info at:

https://developer.thunderbird.net/planning/roadmap
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1625741

Hello Mikhail,

Am 02.09.21 um 18:05 schrieb Mikhail Morfikov:

and what do you expect as further action?
If you want to complain about the removal you need to address this to
MZLNA. Debian is packaging what upstream is providing, some things might
need some adjustment to be in compliance with the Debian project rules.
But at least for Thunderbird and similar packages we do not re-add and
maintain features we can't keep up to date in the long run.

Following the bug report you pointed it's obvious that the user base is
simply to small that it will come back in the near future.

I see no work I or Debian needs to do here and will close this report by
this email.

You need to keep the BTS within the mail loop so others can follow the
conversion too!

Am 02.09.21 um 19:34 schrieb Mikhail Morfikov:

Did you have read the official release notes?

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/91.0/releasenotes/

It's listed under changes. I see no gain to duplicate this information
somewhere in Debian.

Maybe, but I expect no return of this feature.

I know, I just miss-clicked the wrong button -- I think they should
work on this instead of removing the useful features. :]

Most people don't read the official release notes if they don't have
to. So if there's no one who would speak about some important change
at the Debian lvl, no one will even bother with the official release
notes, and it's not just for TB, but it's a general rule. That's why
the Debian news/changelogs files are so important.

It's sad that people think in this way. But if TB wants to have
less and less user base, I think it's on the right way. And we all
know where it ends.

Hello,

I disagree with the removal of movemail support in v91. I noticed it
when upgrading Thunderbird in Stretch from 1:78.14.0-1~deb9u1 to
1:91.4.1-1~deb9u1: all my emails have disappeared without warning, and,
after a downgrade, Thunderbird would refuse to work with the account
touched by the newer version, requiring a manual intervention to save my
emails.

Clearly such a massive degradation of functionality cannot be pushed as
a "security update", and IMHO does not follow the Unix spirit either, to
be given a home in Debian. The developers are simmering in their own
pot, but they need to hear feedback from users sometimes. Now this
feedback is suppressed by a collective Debian middleman, accepting
upstream changes and force-feeding them to the Debian fans.

I use the fetchmail tool for fetching my emails. It can be rapidly
invoked from a script or a key combination, without having to launch a
rather slow Thunderbird every time, when it is not known if there is new
mail coming. This also integrates important emails created by various
local system processes, such as installers.

Best regards,
Vladimir

     What the hell???????????   NOBODY uses icedove for looking at their
localhost mail????

That's a whole lotta BS.  I use it EVERYDAY to monitor system activity,
errors, firewall, etc, etc.

all root sys messages.

     Who is the genius that decided to REMOVE this support in version
91.4.1??  I'm on Debian Stretch still
on this box.

     I can't believe that mozilla broke thunderbird *again*. sigh.


     Somebody really f'd up this time.


Mike
Washougal, WA.   USA

Am 05.01.22 um 18:29 schrieb Mike K:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1625741

As mentioned by the issue starter already.